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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:57 am 
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[code]Drive: Pioneer DVR-108XL (Dual format 16x speed DVD+/-/DL Burner *XL*)
Also known as: DVR-108XLA, DVR-108XLB, DVR-A08XLA, DVR-A08XLB, etc.
Firmware Rev.: v1.14
Author: >NIL:
Date: 2004.10.31 - 23:15 GMT
Patched: o RPC-1 (Region Free):
Remember, patching your drive to region free is only half
the job. A region free drive will not turn your system
region free by itself. For more info, please read
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=239
o 12xRip (Unlimited ripping speed):
The official firmware from Pioneer limits the ripping
speed on video discs. This limitation has been removed.
12x is only the maximum THEORETICAL speed that the drive
can achieve, but not the sustained speed you are likely to
get when ripping. Most DVD's will start ripping around 2x
to 4x and end up around 8x or 10x. THIS is normal.
o nx4all : All speeds for -R/+R/+R9 media
This firmware allows you to select ALL burning speeds on
-R/+R/+R9 media. The official firmware from Pioneer only
allows a limited set of Pioneer approved media to use these
speeds but this patch removes that limitation. Write
strategies for approved media should not be altered by the
patch.
PROPER BURN OF NON APPROVED MEDIA IS NOT GUARANTEED!
Not patched: - Bitsetting ("Burn on -R media instead, people!!!")
- nx4all on RW media. Tests have shown that burning RW media
at higher than rated speed was a bad idea
Release Notes: Consider this firmware as beta, especially on the +R/+R9 side
AGAIN, HIGH SPEED BURN OF LOW GRADE MEDIA IS NOT GUARANTEED
Flashing Instructions: 1/ Download the latest version of DVRFlash from
http://pioneerdvd.rpc1.org and extract the executable you
need (Windows, DOS or Linux) in the directory where you
extracted the patched firmwares
2/ READ THE DVRFLASH INSTRUCTIONS!!!
3/ If you are flashing from windows, and I: is your DVR-107
drive, open a DOS window and type a command like:
DVRFlash -v I: R8143108.114
or, *IF* you need to flash the kernel (Rebadged -> Pioneer):
DVRFlash -vf I: R8143008.114 R8143108.114
Alternatively, if all of the above looks too advanced to you
you can use the graphical user interface addon to DVRFlash
Useful Links: http://forum.rpc1.org/ (DVD-R/RAM/+RW section)
http://pioneerdvd.rpc1.org/
Thanks to: Flash, Agent Smith and the generous contributor who sent
me a DVR-108 drive ;

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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:20 am 
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THANK YOU, w00t.


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:53 am 
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Thanks Nil :D


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:06 am 
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well i've been following plenty of your post of your hacked firmware
this is the first i've used
and just wanted to thank you!


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:38 pm 
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Thank you very much for the XL release! I've been waiting for it for a while keep up the excellent work :D


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:23 pm 
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Hey >NiL, what will actually really happen to my 108 if I flash it with the 108XL Firmware, will it die?


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:30 pm 
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I haven't read about anyone losing their drive completely, but it's possible.

Your drive wouldn't work until you flashed back to appropriate firmware.

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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:07 pm 
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Thanks NiL great works. Before flash it I just want to know that is it possible to backup the fireware by DVRflash 2.0 in case flash failure then I can restore it? Thanks for newbie question.


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:22 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
You cannot backup the firmware on these drives.

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:D GREAT!


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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:09 pm 
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dhc014 wrote:
I haven't read about anyone losing their drive completely, but it's possible.

Well, I actually have read about someone with a 107 drive who flashed the 107XL firmware and LOST their drive.
Flashing a standard firmware onto an XL drive is possible but not advised.
From lack of opposite reports, flashing an XL firmware onto a standard drive WILL KILL your drive.
You CANNOT convert a standard drive to an XL one. The hardware is different.

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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:38 pm 
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NIL, Is this fw the final or will it need work as well?


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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:05 am 
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Well, unless anybody reports a problem, this is final.
We DO NOT need to go through all the beta stages that we had with the 108, because with the 108, I need to adjust the patch for changes that Pioneer indroduced between the 1.06 and 1.14 revision
On the other hand, the 1.14 revisions for the standard and the XL have no differences as to the way they should be patched, so whatever worked for the 108 should work for the 108XL
The only possibility is that I [*Profanity*] up a byte somewhere (I'm only human), and this is why it is experimental at this stage.
If I paid enough attention to what I was doing, this release should be final however.

Please test and report ;)

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:48 pm 
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Did anyone got any problems/bugs on this??

thank you for letting everyone know :roll:

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Can anyone please tell me what is the kernel for?
IS that for OEM drive convert to Pioneer A08/108 ??

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:44 pm 
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Hello, Nil

I just flashed & test to burn on 16x on my DVD-r (I m using Verbatim DVD-R up to 8x)but because it show burning, but remaining times: 00:00:00 but total times still running
Status Writing @ 16x & it take up to 7 min to burn on 16x ???

is that true? or just showing burning @ 16x but it still burn on lower speed

& after I completed the write/burn to the dvd disc , I do the data verifiying
it show this

Read Error from section xxxxxx-xxxxxx

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:55 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
darren_the wrote:
is that true? or just showing burning @ 16x but it still burn on lower speed

I m using Verbatim DVD-R up to 8x


The drives uses Z-CLV.
Use DVDDecrypter or Nero CD/DVD Speed to see the TRUE burnspeed.

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[_chef_] wrote:
The drives uses Z-CLV.
Use DVDDecrypter or Nero CD/DVD Speed to see the TRUE burnspeed.


I used Nero CD/DVD Speed it show

Manufacturer : Verbatim
Code : MCC 02RG20
Disc Type : DVD-ROM (Book Type: DVD-R)
Usage : General
Recording Layer : -
Recording Speed : 4 X - 16 X
Capacity : -

Additional Capacity : -
Overburn Capacity : -

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
No, i meant you should TEST it with a disc.

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 pm 
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[_chef_] wrote:
No, i meant you should TEST it with a disc.


OK , I press Test , so which section should I monitor to know
what TRUE speed

&

I got this as result on TEST
Error!
L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR (031105)

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Please check the software FAQ.
http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link ... sults.php3

F2 - Transfer Rate

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[_chef_] wrote:
No, i meant you should TEST it with a disc.


yes, I did & return this


Error!
L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR (031105)

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
I suggest you read the a08XL review on cd-freaks:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/162

This thread is not the appropriate place to explain burning-speeds/basics IMO.

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darren, the kernel is for converting rebadged XL drives (if these exist) into true Pioneer XL drives, just like the standard kernel is to convert standard rebadged drives (MEDION, etc...) into true Pioneer standard drives.

As to your results:
- yes 7 mins is standard time to burn a DVD at 16x
- extra time is added for Lead Out
- if you burn a non 16x certified DVD at 16x, chances are that part of it will be unreadable.
- as [_chef_] pointed out, if you look hard enough, you should have little trouble finding out why you get the results you get.

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:05 pm 
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I just bought my first dvdwriter, so I m not very PRO on this :oops:

Thank you for the INFO

so can you please list out what are the brand of dvd disc
which fully write @ 16x , and read no error

The same disc that I burned @ 12x not error reading on Offical Pioneer firmware
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Yes , I readed, but not sure about those few disc, I m asking for more Info on other brand then those in it

no worry is ok

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Have you read the REVIEW i mentioned earlier?

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