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Toshiba-Samsung SD-M1912 DVD-ROM

Postby trayton on Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:51 am

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Monday, August 09, 2004
Toshiba Announces SD-M1912 DVD-ROM
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Toshiba's SD-M1912 DVD-ROM drive is the first drive to ship from the new Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology (TSST) Joint Venture.

The SD-M1912 provides read speeds of 16X for DVD-ROM(21,600KB/sec.) and 2X for DVD-RAM (2,700 KB/sec.), with a 48X speed playback for CD-ROM (7200KB/sec.)

Model name SD-M1912
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Interface IDE (ATAPI)
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Continuous data transfer rate
CD-ROM/R (Mode 1) Max 7,200 KB/sec (Max 48X)
CD-RW (Mode 1) - Max 4,800 KB/sec (Max 32X)
DVD-ROM (Single Max 21,600 KB/sec (Max Read) - 16X)
DVD-ROM (Dual Read) Max 10,800 KB/sec (Max 8X)
DVD+/-R Max 6X (8,100 KB/sec)
DVD+/-RW Max 6X (8,100 KB/sec)
DVD-RAM Max 2X (2,700 KB/sec)
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Buffer capacity 512Kb
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Power consumption DC +5v / 1.5A, +12v / 1.5A
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Power source DC +5v+/- 5%, +12v+/- 10%
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Operating temperature 5-45 Degrees Celsius
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External dimensions 148.2mm x 42mm x 184mm (W x H x D)
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Weight 0.74kg
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When: Shipping in Mid-August 2004
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I have marked the changes (compared to SD-M1802) with bold fonts. I don't know what DVD-ROM (Dual Read) means?! Did they mean DVD+R DL? Has anyone ever tried a DVD+R DL disc in a 1802 drive?

If someone got a hand on this drive please post some tests (and also the original firmware of course to the Dangerous Brothers or Hijacker :)).
Anyway, my SD-M1802 already had Toshiba-Samsung label...
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Re: Toshiba-Samsung SD-M1912 DVD-ROM

Postby chef on Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:38 pm

trayton wrote: I don't know what DVD-ROM (Dual Read) means?! Did they mean DVD+R DL? Has anyone ever tried a DVD+R DL disc in a 1802 drive?


They mean normal Dual-layered pressed DVD-ROM so it seems.
I've read that they will release new firmwares for the 1612, 1712 (maybe also 1802) to read DVD+R DL media. I hope they will come soon. :)
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Re: Toshiba-Samsung SD-M1912 DVD-ROM

Postby trayton on Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:36 pm

[_chef_] wrote:I've read that they will release new firmwares for the 1612, 1712 (maybe also 1802) to read DVD+R DL media.

Good to know. Thanks!
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Postby alexnoe on Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:58 am

The 1612/1712 models work with bitsetting on dvd+r dl already. The 1502 doesn't require bitsetting.
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Postby chef on Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:46 am

Good to know, but probably that firmwares makes them read DL media that isn't bitset to DVD-ROM. :wink:
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Postby qspock on Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:00 am

[_chef_], where did you get this info about the new firmwares? Is it official?
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Postby chef on Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:53 am

I've read that in a forum, but cannot actually remember which one it was.

Someone got that reply directly from TOSHIBA regarding DL readability with DVD-ROM drives. :wink:
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Postby alexnoe on Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:19 am

That was me.

Here's the mail i got from Toshiba:
vielen Dank, da
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Postby chef on Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:31 am

Yep, sorry Alex, I couldn't rem where I've read that. :oops:
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Postby Copytrooper on Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:05 am

Very interesting - Toshiba US and Toshiba Germany answered me, there will be NO firmware update for 1612/1712 to support DVD+R DL, 'cause 1612/1712 are "minus" drives only.
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Postby alexnoe on Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:12 am

Mh...maybe they are now forced to release such updates :p
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Postby Copytrooper on Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:13 am

I hope so :lol:
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Postby dadoslav on Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:30 pm

i just by today toshiba SD-M1912 dvd-rom..

1 Q..how get rpc1 ..

i found in The Dangerous Brothers www one frimware rpc1 .. but is in BETA.. what if not working good?

somebody try this rpc1 frimware??
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Postby dhc014 on Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:04 pm

It'll work fine. If not, then flash back to a backup of your original firmware (which you should make using mtkflash in DOS before flashing).
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Any new informations about this drive?

Postby Boki on Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:35 am

Somebody open this drive? What chipset it's using? Is it good as 1612/1702 or it's successor 1802? In riping, making backup copies of protected discs? Etc, etc...
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Postby The Dangerous Brothers on Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:41 am

Been discussed on another thread. It has an MTK (MediaTek) chipset, there's also a picture.

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=29104

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Postby Boki on Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:27 am

Yeah, thanks.
But, there is stil question: is this drive good as 1612/1702? In things that fame this drives?
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Toshiba 1712 or 1802 unlock firmware in new SD-M1912 drive ?

Postby gm81 on Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:27 pm

Is it possible to flash Toshiba SD-M1712 or 1802 unlock firmware in new SD-M1912 drive ?


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Postby dhc014 on Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:32 pm

No.
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5 days without a reply !!

Postby gm81 on Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:39 pm

Is this drive is too difficult to hack ?

Who's working on this firmware ?

How long it'll take to hack a drive ?

What are the method and the sotf use to program a firmware ?


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Postby The Dangerous Brothers on Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:07 pm

gm81 wrote:5 days without a reply !!

Sorry this is a forum, no guarantee you'll get an answer, or even a good one. QoS can get pretty low. Some people have to wait years for a patch, take a number and stand in line.
Is this drive is too difficult to hack ?

Difficult it a relative term, as you haven't managed to crack it yourself in five days you might consider just how much progress you've made. We'd classify it as tedious work, but relatively simple.
Who's working on this firmware ?

When we patched the RPC1 version, we said we'd look into the speed. We have, we will..
How long it'll take to hack a drive ?

dunno. Patching takes no time, figuring out what to patch can take an age. RPC1 is easier because finding what to patch is well defined.
What are the method and the soft use to program a firmware ?

Toshiba has chip documentation, C source code, a C compiler and a linker. Patching requires a C compiler and a disassembler (our tools of choice, others use Hex Editors and Stone Axes, YMMV). The process envolves disassembling the ROM, and then trudging though a 4-20MB listing haystack to find the needles. Then you modify 5-10 bytes of the original ROM to alter it's behaviour in some desired manner.

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Postby gm81 on Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:26 pm

thanks for your very complete answers !



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Nobody answer my questions

Postby Boki on Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:01 am

So, please, anybody tried 1912 at things we are all interested?
- Is this drive good in riping as 1612/1702?
- Is this drive good in beating protected content of well known shields? LaserLock, SecureRom, etc...
- Duration of the drive? This will future reveal, but is it same quality done as previous models?
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Re: Nobody answer my questions

Postby chef on Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:11 am

Boki wrote:So, please, anybody tried 1912 at things we are all interested?


For whom do you speak? Who is "we all"?

I personally have no interest to know about how good or bad this drive is to cheat or defeat any copy-protections... :roll:

The other points are interesting, of course.
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Postby qspock on Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:27 pm

This Toshiba drive seems more like a sumsung drive. It is an excellent reader (it read flawlessly a cd my SD-M1712 and Plex-writer x48 had troubles reading) and a faster ripper than previous Toshiba models for css DVDs. It is silent but in a different way, it lacks the old Toshiba unic sound. As I said, it is more like a Samsung drive.

I like the new button a lot, nothing like the crap Toshiba used to have in its previous models, and the tray comes aout really quickly.

I don't know yet how it performs with various protected cds.
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