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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:53 am 
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Tried 1.09:
Princo 4x DVD-R only writable with 2x not readable.


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:09 am 
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nd1100a -> nd1300a with 1.08v2e firmware

this is the - media i burn with the drive

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID LONGTEN 001
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 12 66 66 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 01
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0B 0F 08 08
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

it burned properly at 4x and plays well in the nd1100a(nd1300a)
also plays well in a pioneer dvd-115 dvd-rom


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:19 am 
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this is the other media i have and i get a power calibration error
as it begins to write the lead-in and then fails

[this is a non burned disc]

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID PRINCO
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 13
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 77 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 AA 00 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 02
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0B 0E 08 08
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

this is the disc after i received the power calibration error

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID PRINCO
Format Capacity 3.97GB(4.27GB)
Free Blocks -27820032
Free Capacity 3.97GB(4.27GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 13
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 77 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 AA 00 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 02
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0B 0E 08 08
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 1FCAEFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

since free blocks are now -27820032
it makes me wonder if the power calibraiton error has made the disc unusable now.

will try another disc of same media and report if the same thing happens


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:22 am 
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tried another princo disc at 4x and got the power calibration error

tried again with another princo 4x disc at 2x this time and got illegal disc

and it now gives on the 2 discs i just tried
as the Free Blocks being -27820032

if anyone knows what that free blocks - means
please do mention it

i see it as what would have been left and not free any more had the burning actually worked on the disc.

EDIT: i havent upgraded the drive to etna's 1.09 firmware
so dont know if it would help burn that media or not


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:33 am 
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Guys!

Why the heck do you try to burn the cheapest -R media that even the NEC1300 can handle well!!????
The NEC1300 has even trouble with decent RITEKG04. So - if this wants to prove that the upgraded 1100 for -R CAN burn -R and the discs can be read - then you have to sacrifice some good (expensive!!!!) -R discs for this test. Everything else is just a waste of time and effort. Do the black or white thing. If it works with good media- then it is successful and maybe some patchers can modify the strategies for cheaper media. If it doesn't - forget about it.

Vid


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:35 pm 
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take it easy coopervid. I think after several posts about princo nobody will buy them again :). i used it because it was the only one i had(buyed it several months ago).


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:19 pm 
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After many things that has been said about Princo media I don't know or undesrtand how someone can still buy them. There are other cheap brands out there..

I use MAN and DAO ( i don't think they are princo) with excellent results... I bought 2 spindles of 25 discs each and spent 56€. That means 1.12€ each disk... Not bad at all since they burn at 4x.. Anyway here in Portugal besides Princo I hasn't able to find anything that cheap that actually works...

Ohh one other thing... I'm burning them with a Pioneer A06 that also makes some difference...


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:26 pm 
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Another cheap DVD-R doesnt work:
00000000 00 42 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 7A 0D 11 .B...@....P..z..
00000010 88 88 70 00 03 4F 50 54 4F 44 49 00 04 53 43 4B ..p..OPTODI..SCK
00000020 30 30 31 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 001.............

writing 2x no problems
only a part readable. i'm making progress :)

EDIT: Already posted several times. Labled SK. other posts labled: Lifetec (Aldi Silver (old?)) / Red Zac


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:10 pm 
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coopervid wrote:
Guys!

Why the heck do you try to burn the cheapest -R media that even the NEC1300 can handle well!!????
Vid


When the person that fixes the firmwares has doubts i think we had better sit up and listen


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:15 pm 
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Equipment used in test
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DVD Writer Philips 416K (ND-1100a OEM)
Firmware NEC 1300 1.09 from Etna
Software Nero 6.3.0.2

DVD readers
Aopen 1648/AMH DVD-ROM
Toshiba SD-C2502 DVD-ROM
Phillips DVD955 standalone DVD video

Data written to disk.
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Ripped DVD files

Played test DVD using power DVD and read VOB files to hard drive

Results
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White DVD. No branding
Burns at 2x ok
Aopen OK
Toshiba OK
NEC OK
Philips playback OK

Memorex DVD-R 4x
Burns at 4x ok
Aopen OK
Toshiba OK
NEC OK
Philips Unreadable

Infiniti DVD-RW (format before use)
Burns at 2x ok
Aopen Ok
Toshiba Unreadable
NEC OK
Philips Unreadable


Media Information
==============================

White DVD. No branding

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 10
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


Memorex DVD-R 4x

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID CMC MAG. AF1
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 10
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


Infiniti DVD-RW

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKW01
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD-RW
Media Id Code Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:21 pm 
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I flashed my ND1100a with the 1.08 booktype firmware and then tried some Emtec 2x DVD-R

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID 4M SYS 202C1
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 1.0x 1385KBps

It seems to burn OK at 2 speed. My ND1100, my Liteon LT122 dvdrom and my LVD-2001 dvdplayer play the disk OK :)

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID 4M SYS 202C1
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name NEW
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 1/ 9/2004 16:45:06
Format Capacity 4.37GB(4.69GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 1.0x 1385KBps

I didn't do the full read error test yet (only a few minutes), but there seem to be some errors there which don't show when you're watching the movie :roll: . I'll try to do some more elaborate testing soon. Still it's great to have a 1300 now!

Cheers for making it possible dudes!


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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:14 pm 
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etna wrote:
Now i think we have to check the hardware again or we have to accept that DVD-R will not work.

Etna


It seems only to be a problem with 1.09...with 1.08 i have no problems with Verbatim DVD-R 4x@4x (i only use Verbatim) ! They are all fully readable in DVD-Drives and Players. So there must be something different in the 1.09 which cause such problems.


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 PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:00 pm 
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Hi all!

I'm new at this forum but I'm reading the topics since I bought a
NEC 1100A in May last year.
Of course I flashed the new firmware for DVD-R/RW-burning
immediately and ... IT WORKS!

Here my tests (with FW 1.08b)


1. DVD-R MMORE 4x

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID OPTODISCK001
Format Capacity 3.79GB(4.07GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 16
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0A 09
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 1E4CFFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Recognized and burned with 4x (12 min.!).
Runs in the NEC itself (verified after burning with Nero)
and in my standalone Yamada-Player!
Perfect!


2. Verbatim DVD-RW 1x

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 00RW11N9
Format Capacity 0.12GB(0.13GB)
Free Blocks 277446656
Free Capacity 4.26GB(4.57GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD-RW
Media Id Code Speed 1.0x 1385KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 1.0x 1385KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector FEEFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Also recognized and burned - with 1x as determined.
Runs in the NEC itself and in my standalone Yamada-Player.

Regards,
dsfdsf


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 PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:16 pm 
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Flashed Etna:s 1.09 firmware on my ND1100a

I burned I Fujifilm 4X DVD at 2X speed it worked perfect no problems at all the DVD plays perfect in my Sony DVD. I scanned the DVD for errors with dvdinfopro but it didnt find any :wink:


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 PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:34 pm 
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Hi,
I have a bunch of Verbatim DVD+RWs, which are only readable in the ND-1100A (now ND-1300 1.08ve).
Using DVD info, I get no result in reading the Media code/Manufacturer ID , it just shows a blank line. The advanced command never works, even on media showing correct Media code/Manufacturer ID .

How do you get these IDs printed ?

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 PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:47 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
You have to format a DVD+RW first, THEN you can read the MID out.

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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:45 am 
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Ok Stupid Question time...

How do I format a DVD+RW?
Surly not C:\Format D:\ -q -s :lol: ... OR?!?!?


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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:20 am 
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Thank you so much for making my media worth something again!!! I have a DELL OEM DVD+RW NEC ND-1100A w/SERVO5, and I must say I am IMMENSELY IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!! Just using your v1.08v2e BIOS & DVDINFOPRO, I was able to change my BITSETTINGS to DVD+R == DVD-ROM, and now my disks will play in my new XBox Samsung drive! This is amazing! Thank you so god BLESS'D much!

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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:07 am 
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Burnt a XboX Game @ 4x on:

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID CMC MAG. AF1
Format Type UDF 206.
Volume Name
Application id
Implementation id
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 0/ 0/ 0 0:00:00
Format Capacity 4.06GB(4.36GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 10
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 00
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 00
4x Write Strategy field 4 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 5 00 00 00 00 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 00 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 20745Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


Works like charm


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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:59 am 
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[_chef_] wrote:
You have to format a DVD+RW first, THEN you can read the MID out.

The media is formated and there's allready data on it, which can be read only be the writer itsself. Here's DVDinfo's output after formating again.
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD+RW
Default DVD+RW book type DVD-RW
Default DVD+R book type DVD-ROM
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
BG Format Status Completed
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

TDKs run very well. but the don't show a blank Media/Manufacturer like my Verbatims.


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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:27 am 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
nebelfuerst wrote:
[_chef_] wrote:
You have to format a DVD+RW first, THEN you can read the MID out.

The media is formated and there's allready data on it, which can be read only be the writer itsself. Here's DVDinfo's output after formating again.
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD+RW
Default DVD+RW book type DVD-RW
Default DVD+R book type DVD-ROM
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
BG Format Status Completed
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

TDKs run very well. but the don't show a blank Media/Manufacturer like my Verbatims.


It wasn't that clear, thats why I wrote that post.

With which drives did you test those discs??

You should have a look here also: www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdmedia/

:wink:

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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:04 pm 
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[_chef_] wrote:
nebelfuerst wrote:
[_chef_] wrote:
You have to format a DVD+RW first, THEN you can read the MID out.

The media is formated and there's allready data on it, which can be read only be the writer itsself.

TDKs run very well. but the don't show a blank Media/Manufacturer like my Verbatims.


It wasn't that clear, thats why I wrote that post.
With which drives did you test those discs??

You should have a look here also: www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdmedia/

:wink:

I tested on DVR-1600H, QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-241, Playstation2 and some unknown Dell-drive at work .. all failed.
Only the ND1100A ( now 1300A V1.08ve) reads them right.

A friend owns a differend NEC-Writer (don't know the label at the moment), which burns the same brand perfect, so they work in PS2 and
all other drives... must be a writer issue.

Thanks for your interresting link, I'll add my ( disappointing) results there.

How do I read the media-ID hexdump from these DVD+RWs. My writer doesn't like the advanced command -> media Id from DVDInfo and my DVDROM either ..


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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
nebelfuerst wrote:
How do I read the media-ID hexdump from these DVD+RWs. My writer doesn't like the advanced command -> media Id from DVDInfo and my DVDROM either ..


For the MID you just click on the Media-icon at the top.

You can also try ADVDInfo, maybe it works.
But it should, if you have ASPi installed.

Which advanced command did you use?
Some commands cannot be used with DVD+R/W media.

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 PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:57 pm 
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Tried 1.09 today:
:? EMTEC 2x speed DVD-R burned videodvd with dvddecrypter from iso => unreadable in Liteon dvd-rom and unreadable in Liteon LVD2001 standalone.
When I tried this brand on 1.08 firmware it was readable in standalone and dvd-rom though dvdinfo showed read errors.

:D On the positive side: Arita DVD+R 2,4 shows as 4 speed on 1.09 fw and burns 4x without errors whereas it shows as 2,4 on 1.08 fw. (I tried an empty disk wihout burning on 1.08 and nero said 2.4, later on I tried the same disk on 1.09 and it said 4X and burend OK at 4X)


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FlakWeB wrote:
:D On the positive side: Arita DVD+R 2,4 shows as 4 speed on 1.09 fw and burns 4x without errors whereas it shows as 2,4 on 1.08 fw. (I tried an empty disk wihout burning on 1.08 and nero said 2.4, later on I tried the same disk on 1.09 and it said 4X and burend OK at 4X)

I've got the same free speed-upgrade with That's Write 2.4x +R (ricoh media probably just like arita).
But I do not fully trust it because dvdinfo shows no "Media Id Code Speed" before burn and afterwards shows speed 2.4x!!
I didn't test the media with dvdinfo with f/w 1.A0, but 4x wasn't possible then, so I guess the drive did return media speed before burn with the original f/w :?:

nec1100 @ 1300 @ 1.09
that's write dvd+r (RICOHJPNR00)

before burn:

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Manufacturer ID cannot be read
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type Unknown
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1

after burn:

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR00
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name STAR_WARS_II
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 1/12/2004 18:22:04
Format Capacity 4.37GB(4.69GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 22F3EFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


I've burnt 2 full dvd-video on these media at 4x with Nero. Burn/verify is ok in the nec, dvdinfo read test in lite-on 166s and pioneer 115 gives all green, filecopy on pioneer is ok and yamaha stand-alone plays them like always.


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