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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
It's the Honeycomb design, but only sold in Asia.

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 PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:03 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Anyone heard about the 111C?

It comes with Lightscribe, from what I've read. :?

http://www.f-m-shop.de/seiten/prod_deta ... b_sort=ASC

Available in beige and black.

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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:31 am 
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[_chef_] wrote:
It's the Honeycomb design, but only sold in Asia.


Oh... only available in Asia country? THANKS FOR U INFO


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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:16 am 
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DVR-A11XL, DVR-111, DVR-111D Firmware Released

DVRA11
http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/download/file_get_e2.pl?file=DVRA11_FW106EU.EXE

DVRA11FX
http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/download/file_get_e2.pl?file=DVR111_FW106EU2.EXE

DVR111D
http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/download/file_get_e2.pl?file=DVR111D_FW106EU.EXE

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DVR-A11XL(A,B,C)
DVR-A11FX(A1,B1,C1)
DVR-111(BK,SV,AXL,BXL,EXL,CHG,CHGE,CH)

Version 1.06
Support New 16x DVD-R Media
( 12x writing:DST, LGE, Gigastrage, Postech )
Support New 16x +R Media
( 12x writing:BeAll, MustTech, Daxon, MAM-E, Interaxia,E-top, Gigastorage, Infosource, Ritek, FTI )
DVD-R/+R Writability has improved.
DVD-R/+R Readability has improved.
DVD-RW/+RW Writability has improved.
DVD+RW Readability has improved.
DVD+R DL Writability has improved.
DVD-RAM Writability has improved.
DVD-RAM Readability has improved.

DVR-111D(BK,SV)

Version 1.06
Support New 16x DVD-R Media
( 12x writing:DST, LGE, Gigastrage, Postech )
Support New 16x +R Media
( 12x writing:BeAll, MustTech, Daxon, MAM-E, Interaxia,E-top, Gigastorage, Infosource, Ritek, FTI )
DVD-R/+R Writability has improved.
DVD-R/+R Readability has improved.
DVD-RW/+RW Writability has improved.
DVD+RW Readability has improved.
DVD+R DL Writability has improved.
DVD-RAM Readability has improved.

Media Support List
http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/pdf/DVR111_MediaList_106.pdf

Pioneer Australia DVR111D OEM Page
http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/computer/dvdwriters/dvr111d/index.html

Pioneer Australia DVR-A11XL Page
http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/computer/dvdwriters/dvra11xl/index.html

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
dare2001 wrote:
DVR-A11XL, DVR-111, DVR-111D Firmware Released

DVR-A11XL(A,B,C)
DVR-A11FX(A1,B1,C1)
DVR-111(BK,SV,AXL,BXL,EXL,CHG,CHGE,CH)


Great news, dare2001! Thanks.

That many 111x models, huh. :)

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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:09 am 
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I wonder if there is a couragous person out there that will try to crossflash 110 to 111? :wink:


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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Won't be a good but a very bad idea.

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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:57 pm 
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Omen71 wrote:
I wonder if there is a couragous person out there that will try to crossflash 110 to 111? :wink:

Different chipset and different hardware, I am not brave enough to do that!


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[_chef_] wrote:
Anyone heard about the 111C?

It comes with Lightscribe, from what I've read. :?

http://www.f-m-shop.de/seiten/prod_deta ... b_sort=ASC

Available in beige and black.


Wow!


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So like the 110 series, the 111 comes in a 111D and 111 (Ram writing) version. Is thee any reason to suspect that cross flashing wouldn't work on this model? I suspect that the 111D will eventually make it into the US market, but not the 111.


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dare2001 wrote:
DVR-A11XL, DVR-111, DVR-111D Firmware Released


Thanks dare2001

I just had a quick look at all the new files
DVRA11_FW106EU.EXE (ATA 0012 PIO_ADV)
DVR111_FW106EU2.EXE (ATA 0012 GENERAL)
DVR111D_FW106EU.EXE (ATA 0812 GENERAL)

Unfortunately, none of them have KERNEL files, only the NORMAL part.
Pioneer are perhaps making things as difficult as possible re: Cross Flashing is not possible WITHOUT a Kernel file.

But much more analysis of these firmwares needs to be done. They could possibly be a new format without Kernel but I highly doubt it. More likely is that they are scrambled differently. The slightly different CPU will be the major concern regarding patching I believe.

Yet again, we have a Pioneer D vs Non-D (vs LightScribe?) etc. as with the 110/A10. Hopefully this will again be another FARCE if they all have essentially identical hardware and can eventually be cross flashed.

They are NOT for sale in AU yet AFAIK.


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Now its trying to find one to buy :wink:


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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:58 pm 
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Thanks a ton for already looking into this matter for us Nullz. I trust your judgement and skills and you at least thinking about modding these firmwares with a relief. I am sure if something can be done with the drives you will figure it out. I sure hope the 111D can be made into a 111 cause I know for a fact Canada will never get anything but the D variant as is the same with the 110. I think the lightscribe model may be different in hardware due to the lightscribing itself. I hightly doubt you can enable that on a D variant via a bios flash but who knows. I sure a crossflash is possible as I am quite used to and fond of flashing ram discs on my 110. I don't want them to be useless if I get the 111. I know I'm greedy but I hope Buffalo has bitsetting firmwares available as well as the 110 is made what it is because of their firmwares doing bitsetting over the official that doesn't. I hope Canada gets a drive in soon cause I'm itching to get one along with 2 new 150gb Raptor drives for my system.

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dare2001 wrote:
DVR-A11XL, DVR-111, DVR-111D Firmware Released


Thanks dare2001

I just had a quick look at all the new files
DVRA11_FW106EU.EXE (ATA 0012 PIO_ADV)
DVR111_FW106EU2.EXE (ATA 0012 GENERAL)
DVR111D_FW106EU.EXE (ATA 0812 GENERAL)

Unfortunately, none of them have KERNEL files, only the NORMAL part.
Pioneer are perhaps making things as difficult as possible re: Cross Flashing is not possible WITHOUT a Kernel file.

But much more analysis of these firmwares needs to be done. They could possibly be a new format without Kernel but I highly doubt it. More likely is that they are scrambled differently. The slightly different CPU will be the major concern regarding patching I believe.

Yet again, we have a Pioneer D vs Non-D (vs LightScribe?) etc. as with the 110/A10. Hopefully this will again be another FARCE if they all have essentially identical hardware and can eventually be cross flashed.

They are NOT for sale in AU yet AFAIK.


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nullz wrote:
But much more analysis of these firmwares needs to be done. They could possibly be a new format without Kernel but I highly doubt it. More likely is that they are scrambled differently. The slightly different CPU will be the major concern regarding patching I believe.
Scrambling seems to be the same, the MCSE read speed autopatcher finds the patch location so I do not expect cpu problems. There might be additional checksums, we will know this after killing the first drive with patched firmware :).

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Are you volunteering to try it. :wink:


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Working on the kernel files.

The DVR-111 series drives are patched the same as the DVR-110 drives, we have evaluated the firmware, and have had a flasher tested. The flasher is known to work.

A beta of the RPC1 patch for the DVR-111 1.06 is now available for testing.

http://tdb.rpc1.org/#DVR111

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[_chef_] wrote:
Anyone heard about the 111C?

It comes with Lightscribe, from what I've read. :?

Look forward to seeing one when they are available, also looking for someone with a A11XL.

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damn you guys are good! Thanks to The Dangerous Brothers and Ala42!

Does anyone know if these firmwares have no riplock right out of the box just like the 110 had?


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[_chef_] wrote:
Anyone heard about the 111C?

It comes with Lightscribe, from what I've read. :?

http://www.f-m-shop.de/seiten/prod_deta ... b_sort=ASC

Available in beige and black.


seems its not lightscribe but labelflash

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/De ... wsId=16366


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 PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:29 pm 
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cool, seems interesting. I doubt it but still wonder if the hardware of all the variants of the 111 are capable of this. Wouldn't that kick some major ass to get a 111D and flash it to get DVD-RAM, Bitsetting AND labelflash support. Couple that with region free and no rip lock and man oh man this drive will be something fierce.


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 PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:49 pm 
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I thought the 111 and the 111D used different NEC chips, and thus wouldn't be crossflashable. Or does the chip set not matter?

Never mind. I had misread a thread on the CDFreaks site. The 11D can be crossflashed to a 111. Not sure about all the other variants.


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The State of Play IMO

PumaUK wrote:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=16366

Thanks very much PumaUK
As usual CDRinfo has great reading, and I just read a lot there.

So my opinion only of the "State of Play"
* DVD Forum has NEW OFFICIAL DVD-RAM Class 1 specs
* Old DVD-RAM Class 0 specs 2x 3x 5x
* New DVD-RAM Class 1 specs 6x 8x 12x 16x
* New DVD-RAM Class 1 is NOT compatible with old DVD-RAM Class 0 media/burners
* Hence there is a new DVD-RAM2 logo for Class1 media/burners
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* New LabelFlash capable Pioneer models are DVR-111L series
* No official press releases about this yet from pioneer.jp
* Buffalo have announced 3 new Labelflash Pioneer DVR-111L models
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* Pioneer DVR-111L can only be purchased in bulk by OEMs
* Pioneer DVR-111L will NOT be available to public for individual drive purchases
* Pioneer DVR-A11/111/111D/111L are Class 0 DVD-RAM burners
* Not likely to support Class 1 DVD-RAM2 16x writing by a firmware update

My personal conclusion for my next Pioneer purchase (disregarding Blu-Ray):
I will wait for the DVR-112L (LabelFlash + DVD-RAM2) and will most likely have to import it from an OEM source in Japan.

I reckon Pioneer could CUT more COSTS if they dump all this D/L/XL baloney and just release two models and ONE firmware: Retail (XL badged) or OEM (112 UN-badged). Why? Because I believe more production lines for many models, more staff to pay for R&D for many various firmwares etc. will COST MORE in the end than paying Panasonic and Yamaha royalties for using DVD-RAM2 and LabelFlash licensed technologies in each model produced.

And this would be less confusing for ALL their potential customers and make them very satisfied with their purchase. This would most probably increase their dwindling market share.

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 PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:53 am 
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I have to agree with you nullz. Too many models =consumer confusion and higher costs which in turn the consumer pays for.

Thanks for the summary.


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nullz wrote:
dare2001 wrote:
DVR-A11XL, DVR-111, DVR-111D Firmware Released


Thanks dare2001

They are NOT for sale in AU yet AFAIK.


FYI DSE in Australia had talks with Pioneer last week and they will carry the retail version when it's.
I'll try to find out an exact date for us Aussies :wink:

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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
nullz,

nice summary, but you forgot about the C versions.
Yeah, that brings the model count really high this time. :roll:

I think that the L versions are really made for the .jp and asian market only, makes sense even more that we know that they'll come under the Buffalo brand.

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