NEC ND-3500A or Pioneer DVR-A08

thomas.watkins · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:57 pm

What is the Pio A08 or the NEC 3500 like? Which has better write quality?

Also, (maybe a stupid question), does the 2510 and the 3500 use similar hardware?

thomas.watkins · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:16 pm

Come on people, 40 views and no answer or vote. I take it that no one has got their hands on the new drives?

chef · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:26 pm

What do you expect, the drives aren't released yet. Only Announcements so far.

The NEC will be maybe released earlier than the Pioneer XL drive.
Both drives seem to use the same/similar hardware?!???

I wonder if the NEC burner will feature CAV/P-CAV or Z-CLV like the Pioneer x08xl ...

You'll need practically proved facts before judging about the drives is really possible.

S33K3R · **Joined:** Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:23 pm **Posts:** 97

[_chef_] wrote:

What do you expect, the drives aren't released yet. Only Announcements so far.

The NEC will be maybe released earlier than the Pioneer XL drive.
Both drives seem to use the same/similar hardware?!???

I wonder if the NEC burner will feature CAV/P-CAV or Z-CLV like the Pioneer x08xl ...

You'll need practically proved facts before judging about the drives is really possible.

here ya go
specs at bottom
http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detail ... ewsId=9946

as for the pole it seems the nec will be better but as was said they have not even been release yet so what answer would you expect

chef · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:49 pm

Thanks for the link, I saw the announcement once but couldn't rem where that was, huh.

We will have to be patient till the first reviews/results coming up...

thomas.watkins · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:54 pm

Thanx 4 ur replies.

Sorry, I didn't know that the drives were out yet but I have seen them on various websites up for sale (Preorder maybe?) If the drives used the same HW as the predecessors, people like >NIL (Pioneer) and Herrie (NEC) would please us all with hacked FW (Keep up the good work, fellas).

BTW, has anyone heard anything about a 4x DL Lite-On, Benq or Optowrong drive yet?

S33K3R · **Joined:** Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:23 pm **Posts:** 97

I believe benq 1630 will have 4x dl speed. not sure when

_emperor · **Posted:** Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:50 am

After having tested the ASUS DRW-1604P i am not very satisfied the drive needs work at the firmware, of course Pioneer should fix first all the problems so ASUS can improve also.

Even we haven't tested NEC 3500A, only from the CAV writing method, it took my vote :wink:

PS. Review later today or tomorrow for ASUS DRW-1604P

chef · **Posted:** Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:35 pm

Now it seems that the NEC drive can also burn DL at 4x, at least with recommended media, which is then similar to the Pioneer drive.
I was wondering why that wasn't clear earlier cause they are obviously using the same PUH...
http://www.nec.co.uk/DVD_RW_ND3500.aspx

NEC has a speed advantage using CAV for

S33K3R · **Joined:** Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:23 pm **Posts:** 97

[_chef_] wrote:

NEC has a speed advantage using CAV for

chef · **Posted:** Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:16 pm

Yup, and is even slightly faster than the Plex 712.

Puma · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:48 pm

both drives available to buy in the uk now, pleased the NEC has added up to 48x cdr recording too, unlike the max 32 of the pioneer

_emperor · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:00 pm

NEC 3500A is available at UK?

chef · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:13 pm

Now available in Germany too according to this info.

Puma · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:34 pm

yes uk availabilty for 64.99 british pounds

_emperor · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:11 pm

Is it available now or pre-order and at which online store?

Puma · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:58 pm

it is available now to buy at h**p://www.digitalpromo.co.uk/erol.html

_emperor · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:09 pm

Interesting, let me get my cc...

Cactusweasel · **Joined:** Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:06 am **Posts:** 37

Interesting, I would get one immediately if those money grabbing sods didnt charge almost DOUBLE to deliver to the scottish highlands, what a rip off!

Anyone found the NEC drive for sale anywhere else in the UK?

Thanks,

Puma · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:55 pm

Yes SVP are selling them from now

Cactusweasel · **Joined:** Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:06 am **Posts:** 37

Excellent, I have ordered one up

Look forward to seeing what it can do

Toge · **Posted:** Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:42 am

if CLV is so fast, why doesn't pioneer use it? is it just coz it produce more coasters on cheap media?

J37HR0 · **Joined:** Thu May 27, 2004 12:06 am **Posts:** 40

NEC 3500A that they manufactured for Mad Dog. MKM004 Test disc 16X

But of course I didn't get any 4xDL media to test

Same disk this time transfer rate test

_emperor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:58 pm

From some first test results i see that NEC 3500A is very fast with its CAV writing speed for +R format!

dhc014 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 02, 2001 1:34 am **Posts:** 12030

J37HR0 wrote:

NEC 3500A that they manufactured for Mad Dog. MKM004 Test disc 16X

Interesting, I had to add a new manufacturer to our database

Are you in touch with TDB, they're looking for testers for their DOS flash tool.

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