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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:06 am 
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I am using Panther, 10.3.4 but I thought patch burn was only needed to make non-apple supported drives, supported, ie so that itunes and idvd etc use the drive? or does it do anything else?

what other version? umm.. gimme a mo, let me trawl back through the pages... umm.. posted (a link to by ) banfiz on page 6:

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_file.php?site= ... Flash.sitx

I think this is the most recent version to fix the "can't set kernel mode errors people were getting.

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 PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:53 am 
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The fan speeds aren't effected at all by the drive's firmware. I suspect what you're hearing is the CD spinning at higher speeds (some vibrate at higher speeds). I have no idea why a firmware update might effect the speed the drive reads though.

Yes. PatchBurn is only needed for non-Apple supported drives. The DVR-106 wasn't supported in every version of Jaguar. Both DVR-106 and DVR-107 are fully supported now in 10.3.4.

BTW: Thanks for pointing out the working copy of DVRFlash. I really needed that! :)

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 PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:08 am 
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but my drive bay fans are loud even when the dvd drive is empty. incidentally, the drives seem to start off quietish and slowly get louder. also I can't seem to sleep the computer anymore. when I do, it won't come back.

I set prefs not to put the drives to sleep (otherwise I lost use of my dvd drive completely). I seem to have caught all the side effects here.

perhaps i'll have a reinstall later and see if that clears anything up.

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 PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:04 am 
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A few things could be effecting the G5's fans. The drive running hotter would do it. I imagine a firmware update could cause that... The clear side panel being slightly out of kilter could do it too. Have you checked that? Do you know what version of firmware was in the drive prior to flashing?

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That gyuy is clearly mistaking the fans for the disc rotation, which can produce a lot of noise when reading a DVD at 16x.
One of the effects of the patch is to remove rotation speed limitation during playout so that ripping is faster, which explains why the drive can seem a lot louder.

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 PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:35 am 
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I'll check the side panel when I get home, but it's only the drive bay fans that are loud, the main system fans are normal. it could be temperatrure I suppose, but it's hard to imagine that a firmware upgrade increases the temp that much.

the original firmware was A606.

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no, I'm not confusing disc rotation with fan speed, as it's very loud even with no disc in the drive

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Checking Apple's Discussion board about this topic, it seems there is a fairly common problem that causes the fans to go into Jet Engine mode. One even mentioned the Sleep/No Wake problem. The consensus seems to be a warranty issue requiring either a processor replacement or fan calibration.

Have you run Apple's test utility to see if it reports a fan or sensor problem?

Also, if you haven't done so already, install Apple's Fan Firmware Update:

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ ... pdate.html

What I'm saying is this problem may be unrelated to your flashing the drive, but simply a coincidence that it occurred after your flashing.

Hope this helps!

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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:40 am 
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hmm.. you're right, thanks for that. I'll need to search the apple forums in a bit more depth to find more info and then I'll call the place I got it from and see what they will do for me.

I ran the AHT and it came up blank, no reported problems.

I just hope I don't need to fight with them over a) flashing the drive (hopefully they won't notice and b) moving the drive bay temp sensor (it's a known hw fault that the g5 drive bay sensor is badly placed).

lets see how this turns out I suppose

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 PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:46 am 
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I'm having difficulty trying to flash my DVR-107D on a Mac G4 under Panther. I cannot seem to set Kernal mode.

My drive is mounted in an external firewire case removed from a Sony CD burner. I've upgraded firmware in a couple of different CD and DVD drives in that enclosure, but all from WinXP. The last was a Sony DRU-500A.

I'm trying to do it now from my Mac. Tried using 2 different versions of DVRFlash. Currently using the one from Las Vegas' FlashIt Kit.

Here is my most recent attempt at forcing Kernal mode:


PowerMac-G4:~ rammjet$ drutil info | grep PIONEER
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D 1.09
PowerMac-G4:~/Desktop/FlashIt_Kit rammjet$ ./DVRFlash -k PIONEER\ DVD-RW\ \ DVR-107D

DVRFlash v1.3 : Pioneer DVR firmware flasher
Coded by Agent Smith in the year 2003/4 with a little help from >NIL:

DISCLAIMER
[snip]
Do you understand and agree to the statement above (y/n)?
y

Commandline:
./DVRFlash -k PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D

Partial MacOS X port of PLScsi: v1.1 by xvi.

Drive Information:
Description - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D
Firmware Rev. - 1.09
Firmware Date - 04/01/29
Manufacturer - PIONEER
Drive is in normal mode.

Switching drive to Kernel mode:
Could not set drive to Kernel mode!

Any suggestions for making this work on the Mac? Thanks!


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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:01 pm 
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please help
thank you so much to xv1 and Las Vegas.
On a G4 with Panther
I'm very new to this but thanks to you guys I think I'm getting close.

I created a folder and included files for my 107D from the French Site (ver 1.16) and put in the FlashIt files.

I ran FlashIt and:
"DVD info" now tells me I have a rpc-1 drive, region free - great!
"Region X" resets DVD player so I can play region 1 & 2 - great!
"Apple System Profiler" says I have firmware 1.16 but an unsupported drive - DrDeviceSupportLevelUnsupported.
Using DVDbackup set to region 1 and DVD2onex copying a region 2 Dvd, I still get a region 2 Dvd that my sony tv dvd player can not read.

What's wrong?.


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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:18 pm 
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OntheEdge wrote:
"Apple System Profiler" says I have firmware 1.16 but an unsupported drive - DrDeviceSupportLevelUnsupported.


It would help a great deal if you supplied the full report from ASP. Are you running OS X 10.3.4? Did you install both kernel and firmware files? Please go to the New Firmware section and download/install >NIL:'s 1.18 firmware.

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Using DVDbackup set to region 1 and DVD2onex copying a region 2 Dvd, I still get a region 2 Dvd that my sony tv dvd player can not read.

What's wrong?.


After using DVDBAckup to remove Region Encoding, Set DVD2OneX to Region 0 (zero). This will make a region free disc.

You will still need a DVD Player/TV setup that will play NTSC as well as PAL. The only way to convert the original movie to PAL is to decode the VOB files into its parts, reconstruct it and convert it to PAL format. I've done this actually. The first time took me about 3 months of many retries. After that it only takes a couple of days...

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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:08 pm 
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you got me really thinking!

your last paragraph about NTSC and PAL threw me

So, I changed the region in my computer dvd player several times to different regions and I found that the burned DVD would always play - so, presumably it is burned region free correctly.
My Sony dvd/Tv seems to play only region 1?, not region free.

this was confirmed when inserting a region 1 dvd in my computer when DVD player was set to region 2 and I was informed by the apple dvd player to change player to region 2.

I'm using DVDbackup ver 1.3 and Dvd2oneX ver 1.3. DVDbackup when set to region 1 actually changes the region to "region free" when you hit the button "process files". With Dvd2oneX ver 1.3 I see nowhere to change the region.

Just so you know I take what you said seriously and with great respect here are the answers to your questions.

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It would help a great deal if you supplied the full report from ASP.

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D
Revision: 1.16
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: DRDeviceSupportLevelUnsupported
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal

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Are you running OS X 10.3.4?

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did you install both kernel and firmware files?

I don't know. Here is the list of file name, which is which? I combined your FlashIt kit files with the download from the macetvideo.com and double clicked the flashit.command.
READ.ME.txt
R7100107.116
R7100007.116
PIONEER DVR-107D v1.16 - RPC-1 + 12xRip - this is a folder
PIONEER DVR-107 Updater.command
Picture 8.pdf
FlashIt.command
DVRFlash

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Please go to the New Firmware section and download/install >NIL:'s 1.18 firmware.
Will this still help?

Las Vegas wrote:
After using DVDBAckup to remove Region Encoding, Set DVD2OneX to Region 0 (zero). This will make a region free disc.
I'm using ver 1.3 of DVDbackup and Dvd2oneX. Dvdbackup converts the setting region 1, north america to region free north america when you hit the process button. DVd2oneX doesn't seem to have a region option.

Is there anything besides DVDbackup that will do a better job of making a Region 1 dvd rather than "Region free".


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You will still need a DVD Player/TV setup that will play NTSC as well as PAL. The only way to convert the original movie to PAL is to decode the VOB files into its parts, reconstruct it and convert it to PAL format. I've done this actually. The first time took me about 3 months of many retries. After that it only takes a couple of days...


I believe you are correct , I have a Sony DVP_NS415 Dvd player and a Wega KV-27FS100 tv.

I'd appreciate your comments.


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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:10 pm 
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OntheEdge wrote:
I'm using DVDbackup ver 1.3 and Dvd2oneX ver 1.3. DVDbackup when set to region 1 actually changes the region to "region free" when you hit the button "process files". With Dvd2oneX ver 1.3 I see nowhere to change the region.


You're right! My mistake. DVDBackup has to be set to RegionFree to remove region encoding. Otherwise, it removes the encoding and then reapplies the region encoding you requested.

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PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107D
Revision: 1.16
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: DRDeviceSupportLevelUnsupported
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal


Download and reinstall the 10.3.4 update. If this doesn't work, you may need to reinstall OS X. Actually, I could email you the corrent DiscRecording.Framework from 10.3.4. That should cure it.

READ.ME.txt
R7100107.116
R7100007.116
PIONEER DVR-107D v1.16 - RPC-1 + 12xRip - this is a folder
PIONEER DVR-107 Updater.command
Picture 8.pdf

FlashIt.command
DVRFlash

The green items above weren't necessary, but didn't hurt. You did install it properly and included the kernel file.

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Please go to the New Firmware section and download/install >NIL:'s 1.18 firmware.
Will this still help?
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wouldn't hurt! Improvements in burning processes.

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I'm using ver 1.3 of DVDbackup and Dvd2oneX. Dvdbackup converts the setting region 1, north america to region free north america when you hit the process button. DVd2oneX doesn't seem to have a region option.


Again, this was my mistake. But DVDBackup has to be set to Region Free to remove the region encoding.

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Is there anything besides DVDbackup that will do a better job of making a Region 1 dvd rather than "Region free".


Not really. There is MacTheRipper, but I don't see any difference in the results. Just the user interface. There's also Fast DVD Copy that does everything in one shot. My only problem there is the lack of ability to save as an image. I prefer to test and verify the image before moving to a disc. Sometimes the process messes up the menus.

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I have a Sony DVP_NS415 Dvd player and a Wega KV-27FS100 tv.


I don't know about the DVD Player, but it appears the TV (nice one btw!) only supports NTSC. This would cause a problem with most any Region 2 DVDs even with region encoding removed. I use my Mac PB's video out feature to play PAL movies on my NTSC only TV. Works great!

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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:39 pm 
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LasVegas wrote:
kidpocono wrote:
When I open the Terminal and type in CD, I drag the file I created that contains both the DVR Flash and the Pioneer firmware files; however, I do not get the result where the DVR 107 shows up; rather the DVR Flash file is shown in the Terminal after my username, as follows /Desktop/Flash\ for\ DVR. When I hit return, as directed, I get the Terminal response: is a directory.


As instructed, you have to type "cd " (lowercase, not caps. and a space after it.) Then drag the folder to the terminal window. It will appear as:



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Thanks again Las Vegas, perhaps your last option - mac video out to Tv is the best option.

Help from yourself and XV1 has certainly educated me and allowed me to have a mac setup that will play any region movie dvd!.

I am truly touched by your willingness to help.


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 PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:23 am 
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Sorry to call up an issue from a while ago, but I have a 106D which I've flashed with Gradius' 1.08 firmware using LV's FlashIt kit. It worked fine at first then I started having the same media eject / drive freeze issues other people reported, which seems to have been solved by turning off hard disk spin-down in Energy Saver preferences.

Does anyone know if this is an issue with the firmware or with OS X 10.3.4? Have PC users had the same problem (which would mean it's the firmware I guess)?

Just interested to know what update I should be waiting for to fix it.

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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:04 am 
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xvi wrote:
* All "Could not set Kernel mode" problems have been tracked down it seems.
* DVR-103 support should be added also...

I'm currently finalizing the new kits. Be patient.



Im still getting the "Could not set Kernel mode" and i have a dvr-106D


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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:11 am 
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Last edited by thepogcbr900rr on Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:26 am 
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DUCKofDEATH wrote:
I used the xvi's Pioneer DVR-106 updater to change the firmware on my DVR-106D and everything seemed to work OK until I tried burning a DVD. When I do that I get buffer underrun and other errors in Toast:

"The drive reported an error: Sense Key = ILLEGAL REQUEST, Sense Code = 0x21, 0x02 BUFFER UNDERRUN" and "The drive reported an error: Sense Key = MEDIUM ERROR, Sense Code = 0x73, 0x03".

The drive's firmware was v1.08, now it shows up as 1.07 like it's supposed to, but it won't burn anymore.

In hopes that I could fix the problem by returning to the 1.08 firmware, I asked the guys in our MIS department at work to try installing Pioneer's 1.08 firmware back on the drive, but they got an error saying the firmware version on the drive wasn't correct, so it couldn't be updated.

I've tried different DVD brands (one a TDK and the other a no-name brand) at 1x and 2x speeds with no luck. Toast gets to the point where it's writing the lead-in and then errors out.

The drive also fails when trying to burn a CD, and I know it's not the CD because I was able to burn that later on my CD burner.

I've also tried a DVD cleaner in case the problem was with a laser but there was no improvement.

Has anyone seen a problem like this and fixed it?

Appreciate any help on this. As of now, it looks like my drive is dead.

:(

DoD

System info: G4 500/DP with 896 Mb RAM & OS 10.3.4

FOLLOWUP: I tried RipTasticMate's suggestion for restoring my drive to v1.08 and it worked as far as installing 1.08 went. Now my system report on the DVR-106D says:

Manufacturer: PIONEER
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Revision: 1.08
Serial Number: DADL495451WL
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: Apple Supported/Shipped
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal

But the drive still won't write!


I have the same problem, did you fix it and what did you do?

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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:40 am 
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LasVegas wrote:
Okay... A Step-by-step to flash without the script.

1) Place all the files you need (DVRFlash and both firmwares) into the same folder.

2) Launch Terminal

3) Type "CD " (note space) and drag the folder with your files into the Terminal window. Press Return. You are now using this directory.

4) Type "LS" and press return to verify you're in the right directory.

5) Open System Profiler and COPY the Model of your DVR drive.

6) Type "./DVRFlash -f " and then PASTE your drive's model name. Note the "Dot-Slash" prior to the command. This is to run an executable from the same folder. Don't hit return yet!

7) Use the backspace and place a '\' in front of any spaces in the drive model name.

8) Use the right arrow to return to the end of the line

9) Type a space followed by both firmware filenames seperated with a space. Your line should look something like this:

./DVRFlash -f PIONEER\ DVD-RW\ \ DVR-SK12D RXXXXXXX.XXX RXXXXXXX.XXX
or
./DVRFlash -f PIONEER\ DVD-RW\ \ DVR-107 R7100007.XXX R7100107.XXX
(Note that there are two spaces in between "DVD-RW" and "DVR-107")

Alternately, you can enclose the drive identity in quotes such as:

./DVRFlash -f "PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107" R7100007.XXX R7100107.XXX

10) Press return. If you typed everything correctly, DVRFlash will ask for comfirmation and proceed to flash your drive.

Good luck!

LasVegas


Did all this and it was right, but got this.....

Commandline:
./DVRFlash -f -f ./DVRFlash PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D

Can't open firmware file 'PIONEER DVD-RW '


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thepogcbr900rr wrote:
./DVRFlash -f -f ./DVRFlash PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D


Tell me exactly where you found this line in the instructions?

Please! Do not even attempt to flash your drive until you've read everything you can find (Not just this thread. Hint!) and you're confident you know exactly what you're doing. If you misflash an Apple OEM drive, you will render it unusable until you can pull it out of the Mac and flash it correctly with a PC.

Just take your time... Read every READ.ME file... Check out any other threads that have PIONEER in the title. Don't post anything else until you've done this. Most of your questions of the last few minutes have already been answered many times!

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LasVegas wrote:
thepogcbr900rr wrote:
./DVRFlash -f -f ./DVRFlash PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D


Tell me exactly where you found this line in the instructions?

Please! Do not even attempt to flash your drive until you've read everything you can find (Not just this thread. Hint!) and you're confident you know exactly what you're doing. If you misflash an Apple OEM drive, you will render it unusable until you can pull it out of the Mac and flash it correctly with a PC.

Just take your time... Read every READ.ME file... Check out any other threads that have PIONEER in the title. Don't post anything else until you've done this. Most of your questions of the last few minutes have already been answered many times!


NM, i forgot to put the firmwares.

I ran the xvi kit and it kept getting "Could not set Kernel mode", so i wanted to try the manual imput way. Still getting Could not set Kernel mode both ways.

Im just trying to get my burner to work. One day all of a suden it will only read dvds. I didnt do any flash or anything, it just stoped being able to burn or even read anything but dvds. Now if i stick anything but a dvd in it just makes a little click and then turns, click and then turns, but reads and plays dvds with no problems.

Im just trying to fix it, and thought this might help.


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Your problem is not firmware related. If a drive is malfunctioning, updating the firmware will not fix it! While it likely wouldn't hurt if done correctly, it would only add a complication to the equation.

If you can't even read regular CDs, it might have a very dirty lens that would require removal of the top cover from the drive and very careful cleaning of the lens with only a lint free swab or lens tissue and pure isopropyl alcohol. These are available at electronics and quality camera dealers. Do not use regular cotton swaps because they're abrasive and don't use rubbing alcohol because it contains impurities that could dirty the lens worse and since the lens in plastic, rubbing alcohol could cloud it

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any news for the flasher with dvr-103 support?


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Updating to 1.08 (Gradius patch) solved my "rainbow wheel on ejecting" problem (Apple shipped DVR-106D on G5) :lol:


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