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 Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:55 am |
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| peterharte |
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memyself wrote: peterharte wrote: Quote: Now my question: Any idea what the hell I can do? Buy a FireWire Drive? Any chance to revert? Or try using firmware 1.08 from Pioneer, if it works on the Mac? Firmware 1.08 works but leaves you the same "fried drive". CD's and DVD's work as long as they are playing. But when stopped the drive seems to lock after a while. I want back to A612! oh thank god, someone else with the same problem. exactly, that's what's happening here. my questions: you tried 1.07, got it fried, then tried 1.08? How did you use 1.08 exactly, just for my information? Extracting it from the PC version, patching the script?! (In the PC version, there's no kernel part.) I used 1.08 the same way as 1.07 (uses the same kernel, just rename 1.08 to the same name as the 1.07 file). Got back to 1.07 too. No change.
But tried the drive under 10.3.4 (built 60, clean install); left it overnight after playing with it and this morning i could play the disk again and eject !!! I have to figure out yet what is changed but there must be some extension or whatever that interferes in 10.3.3. Keep you posted.....
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:14 pm |
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Peter,
Quote: I used 1.08 the same way as 1.07 (uses the same kernel, just rename 1.08 to the same name as the 1.07 file). Got back to 1.07 too. No change.
But tried the drive under 10.3.4 (built 60, clean install); left it overnight after playing with it and this morning i could play the disk again and eject !!! I have to figure out yet what is changed but there must be some extension or whatever that interferes in 10.3.3. Keep you posted.....
thanks for the info! the 10.3.4 bit sounds promising. perhaps Apple included 1.08/1.07 compatibility within Mac OS 10.3.4 since that's the new firmware or something.
anyone could tell me please what's the regular differences between 1.07 and "original" apple firmwares? (and a source for it
did you try 1.07 or 1.08 under 10.3.4?
also, did you experience a "louder" drive while playing dvds with 1.07/1.08 in contrast to before?
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:42 pm |
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| peterharte |
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memyself wrote: also, did you experience a "louder" drive while playing dvds with 1.07/1.08 in contrast to before?
Yes, i did. It's even annoying while playing regular CD's. Doesn't seem to slow down while changing tracks. (like a regular cd player would).
I did try 1.07 under 10.3.4 since i need RPC-1.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:33 pm |
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peterharte wrote: memyself wrote: also, did you experience a "louder" drive while playing dvds with 1.07/1.08 in contrast to before? Yes, i did. It's even annoying while playing regular CD's. Doesn't seem to slow down while changing tracks. (like a regular cd player would). I did try 1.07 under 10.3.4 since i need RPC-1. was it loud there too?
thanks again.
btw, xvi - care to comment on the situation? thanks!
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:06 pm |
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memyself wrote: [was it loud there too?
Yes, no difference. Another thing i found out is that when the drive is unavailable (in 10.3.3 that is) and can't be ejected, putting the computer to sleep and wakening it up regains control over the drive (playing, ejecting). So the problem is not as severe as thought. 10.3.4 probably solves this problem.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 pm |
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peterharte wrote: memyself wrote: [was it loud there too?
Yes, no difference. Another thing i found out is that when the drive is unavailable (in 10.3.3 that is) and can't be ejected, putting the computer to sleep and wakening it up regains control over the drive (playing, ejecting). So the problem is not as severe as thought. 10.3.4 probably solves this problem. Just upgraded to 10.3.4 - hope for the best. It's loud there too (still on 1.07). Was 1.08 loud also?
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:23 am |
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Just updated to 10.3.4 and my patched DVR-106 will not eject disks or respond after a short while. Did not notice this behaviour under 10.3.3.
Dual G5 2Ghz
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:42 am |
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xvi wrote: shreddies wrote: > Could not open device PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-107
Try ejecting any CD/DVD that is inside. With or without a disc I get the same result - it can't see the drive (as it's not responding as a Pioneer). How does the program identify where the DVDR drive is? Is there someway I could pass it a more concrete description, like /dev/disk1?
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:51 pm |
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Hi!
I have a very strange problem after updating to 10.3.4.
I flashed my 105er to 1.33 (original, not flashed) and worked with it without any problem under 10.3.3. Now under 10.3.4 if I put a CD or DVD in nothing happens. Even Toast doesn't see a burner. 
This is what System Profiler sees now (sorry it is German)
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Hersteller: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd.
Modell: OXFORD IDE Device LUN 0
Geschwindigkeit: 400 MBit/Sek
Firmware-Revision: 1.33
Spec-ID des Ger
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:16 pm |
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Forget my last message.
After a complete shutdown of my Mac it works. A restart didn't work.
Very strange!
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:25 pm |
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:43 am |
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Hi all,
I was wondering if I download the 1.15 firmware update EXE file from Pioneer for my internal DVR-107 drive, would I be able to install the update using Virtual PC with Win98 on my Mac G4.
Thanks,
Lane Wyrick
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:01 am |
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scoobie wrote: Just updated to 10.3.4 and my patched DVR-106 will not eject disks or respond after a short while. Did not notice this behaviour under 10.3.3.
Dual G5 2Ghz
Looks like the problem is happening in 10.3.3 AND 10.3.4. I have verified it in 10.3.4 too now, after having it experienced it in 10.3.3. You can sleep and reawake your machine to gain access again, as peterharte said (I didn't use that much), but anyway, this sucks!!! 
I know the flashing of firmware is one's own responsibility, but it would be nice to even hear a word from xvi about those problems now at least THREE PEOPLE seem to experience. Not that it's xvi's fault or something, just to get his opinion as an expert.
I still don't know if there are Apple firmwares to get and to reflash the drive to the old state. (just to tell me that it's impossible and why it's impossible would be greatly appreciated.)
- memyself
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:27 am |
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memyself wrote: (just to tell me that it's impossible and why it's impossible would be greatly appreciated.)
It's impossible because the apple kernel is unavailable AFAIK.
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:36 pm |
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On both of my Dual G5s on 10.3.4 I get the following:
Code: Drive Information:
Description - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Firmware Rev. - A606
Firmware Date - 03/06/17
Manufacturer - PIONEER
Drive is in normal mode.
Are you sure you want to flash this drive (y/n)?
y
Switching drive to Kernel mode:
Could not set Kernel mode
Done.
You may now quit this application.
IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised to REBOOT now.
logout
[Process completed]
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:55 pm |
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As a follow-up when the drive is unavailable any media mounting/unmounting will freeze the program in use.
For example if I drag the CD icon to the trash the disk will not eject. If i then attempt to mount a CF cardin a FW reader, eject iPod from within iTunes or even attempt (unsucessfully) to select my 10.3.3. LaCie firewire drive as a startup disk it will crash. Putting the mac to sleep crashes it.
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:33 am |
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You could try to flash the drive again or you could to re-install osX i hope you have cable it will take sometime if not. 
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 12:05 pm |
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Thanks once again XVi.... you're the man!
I have Pionner104 on OSX 10.3.3 with X227 and upgraded
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:50 pm |
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well we have two g5's in school daul 2.0ghz and im trying use the file, i cant figure it out, which file do i run? theres dvdrflash and the updater program, i tried using the updater and it asks me what do u want to do, press 1 to patch, and 0 to exit, and nothing happens when i press 1, and just repeats the question , i looked later and read that there was an error, but not from patching, it didnt even have time to patch, it said somthing about going to the system maintenance place and doing somthing with the settings? i dont know can someone make a walk trhoguh, btw its the pioneet 106D
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 2:03 pm |
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I bought 2 107D, and both were patched (1.13) via a external FireWire case.
All perfect, most media X4 burnt in X8 successfully.
thanks.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 9:14 pm |
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I have Pionner104 on OSX 10.3.3 with X227 and upgraded
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 9:30 pm |
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iMIKE wrote: I have Pionner104 on OSX 10.3.3 with X227 and upgraded
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 10:52 pm |
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memyself wrote: know the flashing of firmware is one's own responsibility, but it would be nice to even hear a word from xvi about those problems now at least THREE PEOPLE seem to experience. Not that it's xvi's fault or something, just to get his opinion as an expert.
I still don't know if there are Apple firmwares to get and to reflash the drive to the old state. (just to tell me that it's impossible and why it's impossible would be greatly appreciated.)
- memyself
I too have had the same problem on my Dual G5, The firmware update went well but now I have the issue of not being able to eject the CD out after a certain amount of time also trying to access applications like Disk utility and they just hang and dont work as it there is something wrong with all attached drives ? anyway the sleep and wake solution works but its a damn shame that i need to do that everytime now
hopefully a solution will arrive to fix it or at least give us a workaround, failing that i think ill need to buy another superdrive that i can install in my g5 that i can at least have fully working without having to keep putting it to sleep!
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:50 am |
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So the "drive does not eject CD/DVD" is on DVR-106 only, right?
Did you try the usual things: reboot, repair authorizations, etc?
Also, what OS version?
This firmware has been quite tested by PC users, so this looks more like a OS trouble.
I'd wish report of other users with same configs that updated with success, if any.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:14 am |
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xvi wrote: So the "drive does not eject CD/DVD" is on DVR-106 only, right?
Did you try the usual things: reboot, repair authorizations, etc?
Also, what OS version?
This firmware has been quite tested by PC users, so this looks more like a OS trouble.
I'd wish report of other users with same configs that updated with success, if any.
XVI, yes I did the usual standard things such as reboot, repair, boot from cd and repair. I have even did a total re-install and i still get the problem with both 10.3.3 and 10.3.4
I have today purchased a dvr 107 and hopefully i can flash that and it will work in my g5 but hopefully you will discover a solution for the DVR 106 for all the others that appear to be having problems as well.
regards
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