The Firmware Page

I believe it would be very important that moderators reorganize all posts about in every forum into only one treehead for each.

Thank.

i've already done it, it's a sticky now.

*pionts at sig*

How should we do that and also why?
I think this would produce a Helter Skelter.

Look how many different NEC threads were opened, mostly with similar questions...

Let me turn it this way. I believe it would be important if our posters did a search before posting rather than creating similar threads over and over again.
However, we all know that ain't gonna happen.

If you want to go against our posters' lazy habit of not doing a simple search before posting, be my guest. But then be prepared for some serious backlash on how harsh the regulars of these forum are with newbies...

There are probably lots of ways that we could make it easier for people to visit our site download our files and leave without ever sharing in the forum. Making it too easy is not what we want, say someone joined the forum, found a thread to download their firmware stickied at the top, but never searched at all and maybe they missed an important step like that you need to select Update Bootcode when flashing certain Liteon drives using LtnFW as the flash tool and a binary firmware image. I certainly don't have the energy nor the knowledge to go through the forum and search for every single useful thread on a drive then create a sticky for it. It would be great if a user who actually has a drive and is intently following the forum anyways would create a nice index thread just like what Toge has done.

Thanks

Please don't, there are too many stickies as it is. I wouldn't cry if nearly all of them disappeared.

TKM

we're (supposedly) in the process of reorganizing them. I think dhc014 and [_chef_] volunteered to do so.
Just give them a little time

are they just gonna merge all the posts into one topic? (my sticky hopefully)

I don't know. I hope not (unless we rename it to "the Pioneer DVD burner piggybag"). And I don't really want to be involved in this anyway (though I gave them the right to do whatever they saw fit with my stickies).

I sincerely hope not, the whole problem with making these kinds of threads and making them sticky is that people seem to think it makes them l33t or something. So stop with this self promotion and flag waving crap.

Raking a few small threads (3-5 posts) into a slightly larger one (10-20 posts) might be Ok, but trying to make mega threads just tends to degrade the signal to noise ratio.

For the most part stickies should be short, consise, full of facts, address repetatively asked questions and be locked. If you want a discussion based on a sticky start a thread and point to it from the sticky, because once a sticky starts draging to several pages the real focus is lost. Remember, spoon feeding only works if the spoon fits in the mouth.

TKM

I think you raise very good points, but what you just mention above looks more like a FAQ than a sticky.
IMO, a closed Sticky equates a FAQ item (but then you wouldn't want stickies to craft a FAQ because because a FAQ needs to be organized in a well thought hirearchy and needs to make provision for expansion).
A proper sticky is more like a thread where we need opinion (so it is not closed) and which needs to be put forward for a short amount of time.

The problem we have is that, through laziness or other reasons, we seem to be missing the "short amount of time" point.

Should look much better, with only one sticky and one announcement now...

Yes, this is hugely better.

I understand your parallel to the FAQ.

As to the FAQ, now would be a good time to pull the FAQ forum to the top of the list, it's rather hidden at the moment and the forums seem to have moved around a little with the phpbb upgrade or whatever went on. If it's provided as the first thing people see, all the better.

Still the FAQ should be locked to control the content and not a point to start discussion about the question/answer. Is there a list of FAQ's that don't have answers yet?

Anyway, a big thanks to >NIL:, dhc014 and [_chef_] for the kick ass job you guys are doing on the content management side.

TKM

The problem with having an FAQ on this site is that we have (had) multiple choices of what to do. One choice was to create an HTML page which I think >NIL: did on his site long ago. The other choice was to make a forum for FAQ threads. My favorite option was the Custom FAQ script created by depl0y and adapted by Hijacker. I spent a good amount of time adding stuff which I thought would be useful, but this script no longer works since upgrading the server. The database just needs to be linked, I believe. I would rather remove the FAQ forum and fix the FAQ script.