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 PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:10 am 
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Was wondering if anyone could help me with getting the latest firmware for this Prolific PL-3507 IDE to USB2/Firewire bridge used on my external hd enclosure. I'm hoping that the firmware may fix some problems I'm having with it. I found a link on the web(http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=689) which mentioned that the firmware could be upgraded by going to the manufacturer web site(http://tech.prolific.com.tw/) and downloading it from there but I the firmware doesn't seem to be there anymore.

If anyone has a copy or know where to get a copy of the latest firmware for this bridge chip, would love to know. Thanks


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 PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:37 am 
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Thanks for the link! :-)

My USB2/Firewire box has Prolific PL-3507 controller chip too. How do you know/find out the firmware of the unit?

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 PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:00 pm 
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I wish I knew....if you manage to ever find the firmware on that site or from somewhere else, let me know


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 PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 2:58 am 
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Until then, you guys might find this page useful.

http://www.argosy.com.tw/drivers/faq/en ... hd360c.htm


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 PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 10:23 am 
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Thanks for the link...I've already tried that one and tried the firmware update from there, but when I try and run the updater, it says that the chip is not found/chip rejected. My guess is that my chip is a different revision to the one on the argosy enclosures(I think there's different firmware of Revision A chips, and another one for Revision B onwards). not really sure which revision mine is, will have to open up and see.

So, still stuck....


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 PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 10:55 am 
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Tried it on mine- "rejected" Opened up the enclosure- the main chip is printed..

PL-3507
03316A

btw, the firewire box is that on SVP's site (


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 PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 10:29 pm 
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mine says:

PL-3507
03395A


So....and I'm guessing here.. the Argosy ones must use the higher revision chips..

still looking for the ones that work for my enclosure


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 PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:26 pm 
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Oh damn, I saw this firmware file once on the prolific page before it disappeared, and now I am having the same trouble. If you find the file somewhere, post it here!

Cheers, Chris.


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 PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:02 am 
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hdc360c works on my plumax enclosure, the chip is PL-3507 04133C. After the upgrade the 1394 is lot faster.

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 PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:41 am 
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Does anyone have the latest firmware for this Prolific PL-3507 IDE to USB2/Firewire bridge? Im running MacOSX and am experiencing the dreaded firewire corruption issue. I have tried emailing them but so far no reply. Does any other external drive manufacturere use this chip? If so have they got a firmware patch which will work?


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 PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:18 am 
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I just got a Plumax combo enclosure from Dealsonic,

http://www.dealsonic.com/plpmcousb20f.html

I noticed a "copying corruption" error every time I copy large files between the native hard drive and the external one.

I tested it using a 250MB rar file so I can check the integrity of the file by checking CRC. There's never a problem with USB 1.1 (I don't have 2.0). And I tried several different firewire cables from brand name to generic ones the problem still exists. So I know it is either the chipset's problem or the windows driver. From all the previous posts, I think I probably need a patch on the Prolific's firmware.

Open up the box and the chipset reads: "PL-3507, 03513C"

Any ideas? Thanks


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 PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:10 pm 
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After yesterday's post. I found this and tested my hard drive on this PL-3507 chipset. It failed every time at random places. So I think it's possible that the large file copy corruption issue is due to this "delayed write failures" with many firewire external drives.

The HD360C patch worked successfully on my chipset (03513C), but the copy corruption issue is still there after this patch. And the drive still failed the "delayed write failures" tests.

You can have a lot more detailed information here:

http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm

I haven't got a solution yet.


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 PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:09 pm 
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I just dissembled the HD360C update file using i6comp. There are two files relevant.

The first is ROMWriter2.1.3 RS32.exe, after looking at the version description of the file, I think it is specifically designed to flash PL-3507 chips.

The other is pl3507-0204-0813.hex, I think this is the "real" firmware, the file was modified 2004/02/18.

But this patch still doesn't solve my problem of copy corruption on firewire connections.


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 PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:09 pm 
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Just picked up another USB2/firewire box- a plastic one with the removable side cheeks ...
http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog ... ernal2.gif

Chipset/version...
PL-3507
3351C

Any idea of a general Proligic firmware utilty that covers all versions of the 3507 chipset?


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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:58 am 
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OK Guys & Girls,

Just received and installed last night. Corrected all my problems completely with Firewire on WinXP/Pro SP2 and a LiteOn 832S in a Plumax Case.

The original firmware load from Argosy (hde360c) is version :( 03.10.29.001 :( .

The firmware I received from the emagic manufacturer late last night is version :lol: 04.04.22.009 :lol: with a late April 2004 date. Like I said this one fixed ALL my Firewire problems. The hde360c is alot older and only corrected about half of my issues.

If anyone would like a copy please send me a EMail at beach-hobo@earthlink.net.

Regards,


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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:44 am 
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Hi Mr. Hobo,

I also have an external enclosure with the PL-3507 chipset. PL-3507 03433C.

The question I have is if you think this firmware change to have a positive effect on getting this thing to be recognized in DOS? The USB works fine in DOS but the firewire won't initialize. In XP the firewire blows the USB 2.0 right out of the water for transfer speed. So I want to check it out in DOS now for backups.

Are you aware of a driver that works with the firewire on this chip in DOS? I haven't found one that works yet.

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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:49 am 
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How did you find what f/w version the unit has? Have you got a utility?

Pretty sure there is no sticker on the firmware chip, and that really isn't enough to go by anyway.

Ta


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I had to peel a QC sticker off my chip to uncover the numbers.

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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:05 am 
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OOPS, I should change my name to Bob Dumbass nathane. I misread your message and gave an answer that was stupid. You are looking for the firmware revision number and not the chip number.

Sorry about that guy...

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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:53 pm 
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Thanks for that Bob (got the file). I haven't flashed the two boxes, but I've used the util to check the existing firmware. As soon as it completes the check "Read Rom" button, the util quits!

But here's the info I got before it does so..

DVD ROM drive FW ver. 03.06.19.241
ROM Size 1691955?????

[edit] just done it, seemed to go OK (erasing) then uploading new f/w, then on ROM verification it failed. However the unit is not dead, but it's reported
03.06.19.241. So lucky it didn't die. phew

Here's the contents of the readme file..
PL-3507 Firmware Update

Release Date: 04/22/2004

Note: Some information are for Chip B and C versions only.

Note: You must use ICP AP v2.0.4 if you are updating from an older date firmware before 4/10/03.
Note: You must use ICP AP v2.0.4 if you are updating from PMC flash chips with firmware date 10/17/2003 and earlier.
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Changes on this update:

1. Support SCSI pass through function in both ATA and ATAPI. [1394]
2. Fix a situation of the agent reset and the next COMMAND ORB raised a dead lock. [1394]
=> When playing VCD with inferior quality under Win98SE or WinME through 1394 connection, PL-3507 device will be removed.

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Revision History:

04/07/2004 -

1. Add support for EON Flash. [USB]

Note: You must also use ICP AP v2.1.4 to read Flash ID during firmware update.

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03/26/2004 -

1. Fixed cannot run Create Data Disc in Nero CD-DVD Speed using Ricoh RW8165A slim drive. [1394]
2. Fixed very slow to detect LiteOn SOHW drives when unplug and replug between USB and 1394. [1394]

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03/24/2004 -

1. Fixed cannot mount HDD in Linux RedHat. Must use kernel v2.4.20 and above. [1394]

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03/12/2004 -

1. Fixed Ricoh RW8165A slim drive cannot run create data disc in Nero CD Speed in WinXP. [1394]

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03/04/2004 -

1. Fixed cannot detect device when doing continuous copy-reboot on ATAPI device (bus reset issue). [1394]

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02/19/2004 -

1. Support EON Flash types for ICP support: [USB]
- EN29LV512
- EN29LV010
- EN29LV040
2. Passed WHQL XP Logo for USB/1394 Storage Controller and Universal Test.

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02/12/2004 -

1. Fixed WHQL MMC Test item - fixed the WHQL SBP2 data length longer than SCSI command's length. [1394]
2. Fixed op 0x2e, write and verify for MRW disk. [1394]
3. Fixed op 0x4a with zero length issue. [1394]
4. Add send set features to LiteOn DVD. [1394]
5. Fixed bug on ATA_Verify IDE Master and Slave. [1394]
6. Add standby and idle command for HDD when Windows standby. [1394]

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01/14/2004 -

1. Fixed WHQL DVD Test item. [1394]
2. Fixed WHQL HDD ACPI S1 Stress item. [1394]
3. Fixed device unstable in Asus A7V333 under Win2K. [1394]
4. Further optimized bus reset and large file copy under VIA host. [1394]
5. Add CF support. [1394]

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12/26/2003 -

1. Enhanced the DVD Speed performance of LiteOn and LG drives. [1394]
2. Robust patch for the bus reset issue. [1394]
3. New flash chip ICP support - ATMEL AT49LV001NT. [USB]

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12/12/2003 -

1. Add more fix for bus reset problem issue on daisy-chain. [1394]
2. Fix Serial ATA-1394 cold/warm boot problem. [1394]
3. Fix 1GB HDD (PIO Mode support). [1394]

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11/28/2003 -

1. Fixed LG DVD+RW Nero DVD Speed issue. [1394]

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11/27/2003 -

1. Fixed cannot detect Serial ATA HDD using Marvell SATA-IDE bridge board. [USB/1394]
= still has minor bugs in 1394 on cold/warm boot while device is plug-in.

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11/25/2003 -

1. Improve bus reset timing (5 sec delay) for daisy-chain HDDs doing unplug-replug while copy files. [1394]

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11/13/2003 -

1. Fixed the bus reset problem of daisy-chained HDDs on Win2000. [1394]
2. Added the ICP AP v2.1.1 support for PMC flash chips. [USB]

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10/17/2003 -

1. Fix cannot run PowerDVD under Full-Speed. [USB]
2. Fix Compal (Toshiba) Notebook boot problem. [USB]
3. Support ATA PIO mode transfer. [USB]
4. Can force specific IDE Transfer Mode by EEPROM byte 15. [USB]
5. Check bus reset event in all infinite loops. [USB]
6. Fix separated power's multiple bus reset. [1394]
7. Fix WHQL DVD test. [1394]

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09/10/2003 -

1. Fix Compaq BIOS MODE_SENSE problem.
2. Support bInterfaceSubClass = 0x02 (for booting from Toshiba notebooks)
3. When bus reset, not only IDE device should be reset, but also our chip's IDE block module.
4. ATAPI device, CBW transfer length >= 0x10000 problem (Pioneer issue).

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08/13/2003 -

1. Add Write protect feature
- Use port 3 bit 1.
2. Fix WHQL MMC Command Test failure. (USB)
3. Fix WHQL 1394 Test failures
- Add one ATA command decreasing door_bell_count every 0.9 second.
4. Modify some timing issue to make 3507 more reliable like Fix N_Force_bit set time.
- Change door bell delay from 12 to 30ms, open the switch "f_management_orb" in a more easy way.
5. Fix Pioneer DVD Stop.exe Utility problem. (Only for Pioneer)

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07/21/2003 - (not released)

1. Fixed Pioneer daisy-chain problem.
2. Fixed Pioneer DVD play audio CD in Windows ME.

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07/14/2003 - (not released)

1. This solved the problem of 'Access to Fujitsu MO' (1394).

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06/19/2003 -

1. Fix bug burning CD-RW with QSI device. (1394)

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06/07/2003 -

1. Fix HDD Write Protect Feature (1394) - need hardware support for this.

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06/06/2003 -

1. Fix QSI Slim DVD/CD-RW and BenQ 48X CD-RW.

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06/03/2003 -

1. Add HDD Write Protect Feature (1394) - need hardware support for this.

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05/30/2003 -

1. Enhanced USB DVD Speed Performance - faster than ALi and ISD using Nero DVD Speed.

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05/28/2003 -

1. Fix Tablet PC to PL3507 (1394).

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05/23/2003 -

1. Add Write Protect feature for PL3507-HDD. (USB)
2. Add Bus powered control for PL3507. (USB)

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05/20/2003 -

1. Enhanced compatibility of Nero, Easy CD, Disk Genesis softwares with different CD-RWs.
- Suggest to always update to latest version of CD burning software.

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05/16/2003 -

1. Fix Surprise Remove message appears sometimes after Suspend-Resume under WinME/2K. (USB)

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05/12/2003 -

1. Fix NEC DVD R/W compatibility.

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05/09/2003 -

1. Fix WinME suspend-resume problem for Hitachi 80/129GB HDD under Master mode. (USB)
2. Fix Copy >1GB file under WinME issue. (1394)

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04/28/2003 -

1. Fix Ricoh CD-RW burning w/ Nero.
2. Fix Ricoh CD-RW burning w/ EasyCDCreator.
3. Fix LiteOn CD-RW/DVD-ROM buring w/ EasyCDCreator.
4. Fix BenQ CD-RW.

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04/25/2003 -

1. Fix Unknown device when no IDE device is connected. (USB)
2. Turn off IDE device power (P3_1 = 1) when bus_reset and bus_suspend. (USB)
3. Fix NewSoft DVDWrite compatibility. (USB)
4. Fix writing to HDD on Mac 10.1.5 during sleep and wake up. (1394)
5. Fix HDBench with HDD capacity greater than 128 GB. (1394)
6. Fix create 8 partitions for IDE HDD on Mac OS. (1394)

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04/17/2003 -
Note: You must use ICP AP v2.0.4 if you are updating from an older date firmware before 4/10/03.

1. Fix Iomega Ioware Active Disk bug compatibility.
2. USB robustness enhancement.

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04/10/2003 -
Note: You must use ICP AP v2.0.4 if you are updating from an older date firmware.

1. To support new ICP AP v2.1.1 that can detect supported flash type before erasing and writing.
2. Fix following USB issues:
a. Fix cannot detect USB device when replug after unplugging while copying files to/from HDD/CDROM.
b. Fix REQUEST_SENSE command with short length problem on Iomega Ioware utility that might cause instability.
c. Fix READ/WRITE commands with sector_count=0 problem.

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04/02/2003 -
1. Fix Pioneer DVD Burning.
2. Fix unreleased 0401 firmware cannot detect USB device.
Note: No such bug found on PL3507-2A chip.

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03/21/2003 -
1. Fix problem 'MP3 CD burning under Windows XP' for PL3507-1B chip.

Note: No such bug found on PL3507-2A chip.

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03/17/2003 -
1. Fix HDBench/Partition Magic bug in 1394 bridge.
2. Patch fix for Mac OS 10.1.x boot issue from external HDD.

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02/24/2003 -
1. Fix the problem of 'Unique ID with 1394 Serial No.'
For two or more same PL-3507 IDE device on the same 1394 bus, the EUID64 should be unique.
The 1394 Serial No. is now used in the EEPROM to construct the unique EUID64 bytes (64bits = 8 bytes).
bytes #0 ~2 : Company ID (00 50 77 for Prolific)
bytes #3 : Device Type (HD/CD-ROM/DVD/MO...)
bytes #4~7 : 1394 Serial No. (modified by PL3507 EEPROM Writor)

Note: Must use PL-3507 EEPROM Writer V 0.0.0.6.

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02/20/2003 -
1. Fix cannot update LiteOn CD-RW firmware for USB.

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02/19/2003 -
1. Fix USB-IF logo test issues.

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02/18/2003 -
1. Fix boot from USB HDD for Award BIOS.

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02/11/2003 -
1. Fix cannot display Serial Number in Mac OS System Profiler.

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01/27/2003 -
1. Patch for WinCDR software compatibility with Pioneer DVR-105 under Japanese Windows ME.

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01/24/2003 -
1. Fix Cannot run DVD Decrypter software under Windows.

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01/14/2003 -
1. Model Name Modification in EEPROM & Display under Windows (1394).
2. USB Enumeration under Linux (USB).
3. Fix the problem of reading AVI files in some CD-R under Windows XP.
4. Fix full format (FDISK) issue under WinME found in firmware beta relase 01/10/2003 (not released in website).

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01/04/2003 -
1. Fix cannot run Nero CD Speed using blank disc on USB port.
2. Model name display under Linux.

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12/26/2002 - Modify device select behavior to First Plug-First Serve.

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12/24/2002 - This firmware fixed the problem of Pioneer DVD-RW erase using the bundled software (by Veritas).

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12/13/2002 - Improve the function regarding the issue on cannot boot device from 1394 under Mac PC. The full fix will be implemented on the next IC version.

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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:59 pm 
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I have a new firmware of pl3507

I use external combo HD case and My hd data had gone three time!!!

fu*k !! It was 120GB * 3 = 360GB only connected via 1394

So I was very tired with HD case and I'd like to sell it for lower price

to other man (I'm bad sucker!!) But I find out some more web site in google type pl3507 , then I found a new firmware on Japan community

So I had downloaded newest firmware (pl3507-0422.hex) in my computer

and I also flashed my ext hd case , there was some changes
1st more faster (transfer rate)then past firmware
(I don't know what was past versio)

2nd more faster remove device (undocking) (it's miracle!!)

If u need firmware flash util + 0422 firmware !! send me a mail rightnow!!
I'll send immediately !! , or soon or later If have any more web server or
FTP , I will be bulletin it , sorry my poor English~~ hehe~~ :D

Have fun~~~

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 PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:29 pm 
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I run an ME-320U2F external enclosure containing the Prolific PL3507.
USB1 is functionally OK (but sooo slow), but a Firewire connection gave all sorts of problems like mentioned by others in this forum.
I've tried both the firmware 03.10.29.001 as well as the quite recent 04.04.22.009 as mentioned and provided to me by beach_hobo, but unfortunately neither one fixed all problems.
04.04.22.009 makes things better but it's still far away from being acceptable for normal use.

This is on a Windows XP prof system, with SP1 and KB822603.
When setting the drive to "optimize for performance" instead of "optimize for quick removal" in the hardware/device manager, it only takes a 1Gbyte file to be dragged and dropped in the external disk folder and within 1 minute into the copy the device stops (no more blinking LED on the drive) and after a while the drive letter disappears from the explorer window, and the "safely remove hardware" icon is gone as well.

Any tips to solve these problems are very welcome.

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 PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:15 pm 
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What is ICP AP v2.0.4 ?

would anyone mind to tell me?


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 PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:01 pm 
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How are people flashing these units? Are you disconnecting the devices within the box then flashing? Or flashing it with a device connected? (ie HD/DVD etc)


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 PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:00 pm 
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The ICP AP v2.0.4 is the rom writer or flasher program. The flasher/reader works when the enclosure is connected via USB and does not work when connected via firewire. I have a hard drive in my enclosure at this time. The updated flash worked fine without disconnecting anything. Remember to connect via USB to do your flash or the flasher/reader program will give no results.

FWIW I moved some .vob files around without a hitch on both usb and IEEE1394 and we all know they average a gig a chunk.

It also seemed to work just a tad better if I hard jumper selected master for the hard drive even though on a WD drive with no jumpers is a master or single drive. YMMV

My results last night using Hard drive tach 2.70 came out like this:

(all numbers are rounded off).

USB Read Speed Max 18mb/s, Min 13, Average 15 / CPU usage 35%

IEEE1394 Read speed max 35mb/s, min 21, average 28 / CPU 17%

You may notice that the firewire seems pretty near twice as fast with half the cpu strain. There are no typos here.

I'm running a Abit NF7s v2.0 mainboard with windows XP pro.

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