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 PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:20 pm 
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Hi there im new to all this dvd copying for a certain 360 console. I have the latest firmware 1.29 and use aone disks with the 67 dye. Everytime i try to burn one at 2.4x or 4x it gest halfway and stops. and complains about a power calibration. I am using dma 4 or whatever its called

I have read the tutorials to set the layerbreak in imgburn and used clonecd still doesnt work. Also if i try to burn AONE disks at 6x 8x they just basically die power calibration error straight off.

Also i have heard i can use verbatim 2.4x and hange it to burn at a faster speed? How would i do this?

Any help would be appreciated

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 PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:35 pm 
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poor media is likely your problem here, if you want to increase burning speeds, you need to use MCSE, link below

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 PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:09 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
ant3b wrote:
Also i have heard i can use verbatim 2.4x and hange it to burn at a faster speed? How would i do this?

Can be burnt up to 8x by default and only choosing the speed...
You have used cheap DL media, no surprise they wont work.

Please post their MID/mediacode by using dvd.identifier.

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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:46 am 
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Yes they where cheap media. I have found some ridisc dvd's to use but they have the same dye.? Will they be good dvd's or will they be the same as the aone ones the dye is the same you see? both are RICOHJPND01


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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:58 am 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Ridisc/Ritek DL media is cheap and all other cheap DL media have Ritek dyes too.

The RicohJpnD01 discs seem to be too new on the market to be properly supported, even the dye should be supported with the latest 111 firmware according to Pioneer. But I would only trust such 8x DL from RICOH itself...

I've got acceptable burn results with this media:

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Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R DL
 Book Type        : DVD+R DL
 Manufacturer:    : CMC
 MID              : CMC MAG D01 000 (00)
 Write speeds:    : 2.4 X
 Blank Capacity   : 7.96 GB
                  : 8152 MB
                  : 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 2
 Layer break      : 3.98 GB
 Write strategies : n/a
 Disc Status      : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - ..2.........."..
0010 - 00 00 00 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 44 30 31 00 40 - ...CMC.MAG.D01.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0B 02 3C 6A 02 3C 6A 1B 1C 0D 0C 0C 0C - %%7..<j.<j......
0030 - 02 01 01 10 00 1B 1C 0D 0C 0C 0C 02 01 01 10 00 - ................


It is DATASAFE DVD+R DL 2.4x rated and came in a 10 pieces spindle.
But results cannot be that good as with Verbatim DL, of course.

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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:00 am 
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ah ok, do you know where i can buy some verbatims then pretty cheap svp.co.uk have non left always out of stock.


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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:57 am 
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ant3b wrote:
ah ok, do you know where i can buy some verbatims then pretty cheap svp.co.uk have non left always out of stock.


http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk

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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:41 pm 
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Hi does anyone know what dye the gigatain 2.4x dual layer disks use on www.digitalpromo.co.uk, it seems they have the azo dye which the verbatims use is this correct has anyone tried them.


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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:51 pm 
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The critical thing to know is what the Media ID is, if you ask the store they should be able to tell you. If they can't then deal with someone else.

The cheap stuff starts looking expensive if you keep getting failures, do yourself a favour and purchase the real Verbatim/MKM media rather than stuff that is trying to fake itself off.

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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:05 pm 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
Cheap DL media is more and more flooding the market. So before buying them it might be helpful to check out this good list from Videohelp. ;)

The Datasafe 2.4x DVD+R DL media I've mentioned earlier is the PRINTABLE version. The 'normal' version seems to be crap with Ritek DYE. :(

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 PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:58 pm 
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i have posted these on another forum, but will post them on here, hope it helps!

kit:
Burner: Pioneer 111D
Firmware: TDB 1.29
360 Drive Tested: Samsung Ms25m, Xtreme 4.2A

Note: All games worked on my sammy ms25, these are just tests of the quality of the disk, i.e any read errors or PI failures, which lead to the disk deteriating over time, so the game may work now, but come 3 months down the line will they work?

Lets start!

1st Disk Quality Test - using Benq 1620pro as the reader, Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.0, used CloneCD, set at 4x but it burnt at 2.4x :blink: disk: RICOHJPN-D01-67

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As you can see the test was going superbly up until the layer break where the score dropped significantly from 93 to 73, but it stayed at 73 and didnt go any lower towards the end of the disk:mellow:


2nd Disk Quality Test - using Benq 1620pro as the reader and using Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.0, used Imgburn, with layer break set in options, set at 8x and burnt at 8x. Disk: RICOHJPN-D01-67

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As you can see the test was going superbly up until the layer break where the score dropped significantly from 93 to 70 then to 59 at the end:mellow: not good im afraid, burning these disks at lower speeds seem to have the edge!


3rd Disk Quality Test - using Benq 1620pro as the reader and using Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.0, used clonecd, set at 8x and burnt at ~7x - 8x. disk: RICOHJPN-D01-67

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4th Disk Disk Quality Test - using Benq 1620pro as the reader and using Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.0, used clonecd, set at 2.4x and burnt at 2.4x. Disk is a DataSafe DVD+R DL Ritek D01

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As you can see the test was going superbly up again until the layer break where the score dropped significantly. Not good in my eyes


5th Disk Disk Quality Test - using Benq 1620pro as the reader and using Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.0, used clonecd, set at 6x and burnt at 6x. Disk is a Verbatim dvd+r DL, MKM 001

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as you can see, the difference in the verb and the aone is quite noticeable, with the verb there are a few green peaks compared to the ones in the aone results. This is why the verbs are the best you can buy, less errors means less problems, final quality score is 93, and not that much of as problem after the layerbreak, this is where the aone disks let it self down, after the layer break.

Conclusion

Of course many people will have their own views about what disks work fine for them etc etc

but looking the the test results it seems to me that the cheap disks all have trouble after the layer break and the dearer verbatim disk doesnt have this problem.

for me, i will stick to the verbatims as i am a just a quality freak when it comes to disks, i can burn on verbs all day long without worrying about the data thats on them, but with the cheaper disks i certainly wont be putting anything important on them :p


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 PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:47 am 
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Location: .de #...still playing LLAMATRON! # sprite killing around level 138 and higher....
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but looking the the test results it seems to me that the cheap disks all have trouble after the layer break and the dearer verbatim disk doesnt have this problem.


... who have thought that would be the conclusion?!? :roll:

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 PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:37 am 
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I had the same pb last week...Thought it was my Plextor 740A, so I bought a Pioneer 111D

still, the problem remained


I finally changed nero (7.xxx->6.3.1.20)

and here I am : I only burn at 2.4x, but no more calibration error, and burned DVD is ok

:lol:


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