The Firmware Page

i have just had an email from this company telling me they have got the pioneer 108 on sale it looks very tempting you will find it here
http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php ... eadb84acc4


cheers bighun

SVP have just added the 108 to their catalogue too-

I have ordered one from SVP and expect delivery when I awake later today.
Edit
ITS ARRIVED!
9.30 am this morning Saturday 07/08/04
Now to find room for it and put it through its paces

Thank you SVP for you usual prompt & efficient service

Pioneer have just released a firmware update for it as well 1.06

DVD-R Writability Improvement
+R Writability Improvement
+R DL(DoubleLayer) Writability Improvement
CD-R Writability Improvement
Ultra Speed CD-RW Writability Improvement
DVD Playability Improvement
CD Playability Improvement

hi flash
have you found any 8 speed media that will burn at 16 speed yet




cheers bighun

I can asnwer that
Here's the list of MID that will burn at more than 4x with the 108 and firmware 1.06 (-R media only):

I just bought a DVR-108 yesterday in France, in Paris.

For now this burner is not supported by "DVRFlash", would a new version of "DVRFlash" be provided soon ?

It will when DVRFlash 2.0 is released (we already have a pre-release version of 2.0 for Windows if you're interested). It's been tested and works fine.
But DVRFlash 2.0 will only be fully released when it is recompiled on Mac. I can't tell you when that will happen, because we're basically waiting on our Mac developer to come back.

Thanks for your fast response, but i'm a Mac user...

So i'll wait till, the Mac developer will be back.

Check out my Test review for DVD-Recordable HERE

Thanks for theses tests.

I cannot publish theses Nero test, because i'm a Mac user, and Nero don't work on Mac.

Yesterday I just tryed to burn with my new DVR-108, original 1.04 firmware, a Ritek G05 at 12X using Toast 6.07. I've not been impressed by the burning speed...

I'm sure the DVD as not been burned at 12X. The burning time has been longer than a 8x with the old DVR-107, around 2 ou 3 minutes much more time.

But the DVD has been burned without any error neither during the burning process, nor during the verification process. And it worked fine on my home Philips home DVD reader.

Now i'm waiting the "DVRFlash 2.0", new release to be able do some other tests with the firmware 1.06.

I know its early but has anyone looked at the firmware for a nx4all yet?

LonG

FFS give us a break we have not yet unpacked the box
It will arrive in due course without reminding
Extra pressure only adds delays to the project

have you guys got an ETA on the patched firmware? not that we are in a rush of course...

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@>NIL

There must be more than 1 type of TTG01

TTG01 will only burn at 4X here.

media id:
00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
66 78 80 00 03 54 54 47 30 31 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TTG01......
00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 0F 11 ................

And there must be more than 1 type of CMC MAG. AE1
Again mine will only burn at 4X

media id:
00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 54 0D 0E .l...@....R..T..
88 9A 80 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 .....CMC MA..G.
41 45 31 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0D 11 AE1.............

TYG02 and MCC02RG20 DVD-R's will burn at 12X

for DVD+R
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YUDEN000T02 and CMC MAG. E01 both will burn at 16X

MCC003 and RICOHJPNR02 will burn at 12X

I gave you what I saw in the speed tables.
After that, Pioneer do pretty much what they want to tweak (read "limit") the speed of specific media.

Oh, and just in case you wonder, I'm getting pretty good results burning Arita/RitekG04 4x DVD-R media at 16x with an early beta of the 16x4all 108 firmware.

ZCLV is a pain in the ass though (I wish Pioneer followed NEC's example and went CAV all the way) and you have to know that the DVR-108 is really a 12x burner that only got stamped 16x because Pioneer marketing insisted on it. In all, the drive must burn less than 300 MB of data at 16x


(NB: The missing plateau at 16x is a Nero CDVD Speed issue. There should be a 16x plateau at the end. Also the graph above does not apply to an actual data disc creation as I preferred using my media to burn actual data. During these real-life tests, I reached 16x writing speed just like in the graph above)

The ZCLV of the 108 is pretty much split this way, with the usual pauses on each ZCLV transition:
o 0000 -> 0380 MB: 6x
o 0380 -> 2000 MB: 8x
o 2000 -> 4200 MB: 12x
o 4200 -> 4500 MB: 16x

Can't give you any ETA of the 16x4all firmware though. Probably > 1 week.

File->Options->Transfer Rate->Maximum speed DVD: 17 will show the 16x part.

by the time 16x -R media is out, won't pioneer release firmware which will allow you to burn 16x constantly?

And pigs might fly

oh right, yeah, Z-CLV. *shakes fist*

Hehe you took me to seriously Flash i wasn't rushing i just asked as someone would soon enough. I dont even have one it was merly a question

LonG

You should know me by now I am a very serious old man

LOL! Yeah right! HELL RIGHT!

Just check it out his site (@ rpc1.org).

Hey, let it there, I like it too!

Gradius

@Flash, Thanks for the previews.



Quite some interesting MIDs we have here...
TTG02 and TTH01 looks like 8X and 16X certified DVD-R TDK discs, and will probably still be manufactured by CMC with these "special" TDK MIDs.
SONY08D1 --> I have to wonder if these discs will be garbage...