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Another possible layer of protection...and it's FREE!!!

Postby tjs on Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:38 pm

Guys,

Perhaps like some of you, I've been aware of a Freeware program called 'SandBoxie' for some time now.

However, I've only just got around to trying it...VERY nice :)

In essence, what SandBoxie does is to ban ALL writes to your real data on your Hard Drive and instead, divert writes to its own cache (created on your drive)... in other words, a Sand Box protection (hence the title of course).

An example:

You can fire-up your Browser (under SandBoxie) and go/do what you like on the Web.

At the end of your session, you can elect to DELETE ALL of that activity (in the Sand Box) so that none of what you have done is on your system for real!!!

You need to 'play' with this to understand the benefits (I tried it out firstly on a VM (Virtual Machine) but now have it installed for real).

It is very flexible, and I'm still discovering its many virtues.

Give it a try, BUT, be aware that when running with SandBoxie, if you elect (as I do) to delete the Sand Box at the end of a session, ALL of whatever it was that you were doing whilst running SandBoxie will be lost (but of course, that's the whole point of it in the first place).

In other words, make sure you have the concept of what SandBoxie is doing before you use it in earnest!!!

I should also mention that it has a voracious appetite for drive space so you need plenty of spare (i.e. just firing up SandBoxie will create - in my case - an 8Meg cache file before it does anything...hence the 'delete' option).

Go here:

http://www.sandboxie.com

Enjoy (but take care).

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Postby chef on Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:38 pm

Good find, tjs!
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Postby tjs on Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:46 pm

[_chef_] wrote:Good find, tjs!


Hi Chef,

Yep, the more I see of this, the more I like :)

BUT, of course, nothing is guaranteed to work 100%...as I'm sure you all know.

So far, this is 'as good as it gets for free'..

Thanks for taking the time to respond Chef :)

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Postby Puma on Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:30 pm

nice post Terry, this is really good, and free
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Postby tjs on Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:17 pm

AstraUK wrote:nice post Terry, this is really good, and free

Hope you fnd this useful...

Take care all.

Thanks to chef & AstraUK.

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Postby tjs on Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:37 pm

tjs wrote:
AstraUK wrote:nice post Terry, this is really good, and free

Hope you find this useful...

Take care all.

Thanks to chef & AstraUK.

tjs.


Just for the record, my thanks to chef & AstraUK were meant to say that these Guy's provide a relatively 'safe' environment for the likes of me to 'Post' into....and for you to Download from!!!

If it wasn't for these Guys, well...

Thanks again for all your (unpaid) work :)

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Postby anarion on Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:01 pm

tjs wrote:
tjs wrote:
AstraUK wrote:nice post Terry, this is really good, and free

Hope you find this useful...

Take care all.

Thanks to chef & AstraUK.

tjs.


Just for the record, my thanks to chef & AstraUK were meant to say that these Guy's provide a relatively 'safe' environment for the likes of me to 'Post' into....and for you to Download from!!!

If it wasn't for these Guys, well...

Thanks again for all your (unpaid) work :)

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Re: Another possible layer of protection...and it's FREE!!!

Postby tjs on Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:31 pm

tjs wrote:Guys,

Perhaps like some of you, I've been aware of a Freeware program called 'SandBoxie' for some time now.

However, I've only just got around to trying it...VERY nice :)

In essence, what SandBoxie does is to ban ALL writes to your real data on your Hard Drive and instead, divert writes to its own cache (created on your drive)... in other words, a Sand Box protection (hence the title of course).

An example:

You can fire-up your Browser (under SandBoxie) and go/do what you like on the Web.

At the end of your session, you can elect to DELETE ALL of that activity (in the Sand Box) so that none of what you have done is on your system for real!!!

You need to 'play' with this to understand the benefits (I tried it out firstly on a VM (Virtual Machine) but now have it installed for real).

It is very flexible, and I'm still discovering its many virtues.

Give it a try, BUT, be aware that when running with SandBoxie, if you elect (as I do) to delete the Sand Box at the end of a session, ALL of whatever it was that you were doing whilst running SandBoxie will be lost (but of course, that's the whole point of it in the first place).

In other words, make sure you have the concept of what SandBoxie is doing before you use it in earnest!!!

I should also mention that it has a voracious appetite for drive space so you need plenty of spare (i.e. just firing up SandBoxie will create - in my case - an 8Meg cache file before it does anything...hence the 'delete' option).

Go here:

http://www.sandboxie.com

Enjoy (but take care).

tjs.


Guys,

Sad to say, it has now occurred to me that there is a potential 'sinister' side to this (and I'll leave it to you and your own interpretations) :(

Let me repeat that the whole point of SandBoxie is to, innocently, use the Web so that, for example, you can install software that you might just want to evaluate without committing your system to it...so you could, for example, install (say) a new Browser, not like it, and delete the fact that you ever tried it (in your Registry etc.) in the first place.

Oh dear...

What sick times we live in :( (if you get my point).

Sorry to get 'heavy', but we must stay aware.

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Re: Another possible layer of protection...and it's FREE!!!

Postby tjs on Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:36 pm

tjs wrote:Guys,

Perhaps like some of you, I've been aware of a Freeware program called 'SandBoxie' for some time now.

However, I've only just got around to trying it...VERY nice :)

In essence, what SandBoxie does is to ban ALL writes to your real data on your Hard Drive and instead, divert writes to its own cache (created on your drive)... in other words, a Sand Box protection (hence the title of course).

An example:

You can fire-up your Browser (under SandBoxie) and go/do what you like on the Web.

At the end of your session, you can elect to DELETE ALL of that activity (in the Sand Box) so that none of what you have done is on your system for real!!!

You need to 'play' with this to understand the benefits (I tried it out firstly on a VM (Virtual Machine) but now have it installed for real).

It is very flexible, and I'm still discovering its many virtues.

Give it a try, BUT, be aware that when running with SandBoxie, if you elect (as I do) to delete the Sand Box at the end of a session, ALL of whatever it was that you were doing whilst running SandBoxie will be lost (but of course, that's the whole point of it in the first place).

In other words, make sure you have the concept of what SandBoxie is doing before you use it in earnest!!!

I should also mention that it has a voracious appetite for drive space so you need plenty of spare (i.e. just firing up SandBoxie will create - in my case - an 8Meg cache file before it does anything...hence the 'delete' option).

Go here:

http://www.sandboxie.com

Enjoy (but take care).

tjs.

In case you didn't know...

How do you establish that you are currently running an App (IE, My Prog etc.) within a SandBox?

Easy...

Just take a peek at the Caption (Title Bar) of the Window (that's the Blue Bar across the top of the Window (screen) ) and, if you are 'Sandboxed', you will see this:

[#] Whatever [#]

In other words, you are in SandBox if you see [#] followed by whatever it is that you are running, followed by [#] :)

As ever, you MUST not consider this as a 'catch-all' solution, rather, another defence in your 'Bad Guys' armour!

Hope this helps.

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Postby chef on Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:38 pm

Hey Terry,

you may check out the wonderful Xen (linux).
Quite a great thingie. :!:
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Postby tjs on Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:49 pm

[_chef_] wrote:Hey Terry,

you may check out the wonderful Xen (linux).
Quite a great thingie. :!:


Hi Chef,

I'll try to, but as things stand, I only develop software for M$ (Windows).

Shame on me :)

At present, I draw the line at no software for Vi$ta, but I have to admit to be committed to M$ :(

Actually, that's not entirely true....I write in Delphi (and others), and not ONE of my current Software projects uses M$ tools (apart from FrontPage 2000) :)

Take care.

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Postby dhc014 on Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:53 pm

Sounds nice. Is there a noticable performance overhead? Does it take a long time to commit changes if you choose to or to wipe out changes?
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Postby Puma on Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:07 pm

dhc014 wrote:Sounds nice. Is there a noticable performance overhead? Does it take a long time to commit changes if you choose to or to wipe out changes?


nope its very quick, although if you have AOL as your host, it doesn't work, but its handy for explorer etc
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An updated Sandboxie!!!

Postby tjs on Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:40 pm

AstraUK wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Sounds nice. Is there a noticeable performance overhead? Does it take a long time to commit changes if you choose to or to wipe out changes?


nope its very quick, although if you have AOL as your host, it doesn't work, but its handy for explorer etc


Guys,

Sandboxie has gone from a ('stable release') 2.86, to a Beta 2.94.23 :)

It seems stable enough to me (although, not extensively tested of course).

For the 'Brave of Heart', it's here:

http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1562

Take care.

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Postby Puma on Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:45 pm

thanks for the info terry, will give it a go :wink:
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Postby tjs on Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:51 pm

AstraUK wrote:thanks for the info terry, will give it a go :wink:


Hi A,

The first thing that I noticed is that 2.94 uses FAR less disc space (cache) when you first Boot it...how about you?

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Latest Sandboxie Beta (2.94.25)...

Postby tjs on Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:00 pm

tjs wrote:
AstraUK wrote:thanks for the info terry, will give it a go :wink:


Hi A,

The first thing that I noticed is that 2.94 uses FAR less disc space (cache) when you first Boot it...how about you?

Terry.


For those of you trying Sandboxie, the latest Beta release (v2.86 is still considered to be the most recent stable version), v2.94.25 is here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/2.9x/Sandboxie ... -29425.exe

Seems OK to me so far :)

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Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:10 pm

tjs wrote:
tjs wrote:
AstraUK wrote:thanks for the info terry, will give it a go :wink:


Hi A,

The first thing that I noticed is that 2.94 uses FAR less disc space (cache) when you first Boot it...how about you?

Terry.


For those of you trying Sandboxie, the latest Beta release (v2.86 is still considered to be the most recent stable version), v2.94.25 is here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/2.9x/Sandboxie ... -29425.exe

Seems OK to me so far :)

tjs.


Sandboxie v3 was released today (10th July 2007) and is available here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?DownloadSandboxie

MD5 Checksum for download is:

e3fe29ed46b4fcac6fe0e6a64127d300

In case I haven't, I should stress that I have absolutely nothing to do with Sandboxie or its development..I just like it (er...in modem parlance, I think "It's Kool") :)

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Re: Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:42 pm

tjs wrote:
tjs wrote:
tjs wrote:
AstraUK wrote:thanks for the info terry, will give it a go :wink:


Hi A,

The first thing that I noticed is that 2.94 uses FAR less disc space (cache) when you first Boot it...how about you?

Terry.


For those of you trying Sandboxie, the latest Beta release (v2.86 is still considered to be the most recent stable version), v2.94.25 is here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/2.9x/Sandboxie ... -29425.exe

Seems OK to me so far :)

tjs.


Sandboxie v3 was released today (10th July 2007) and is available here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?DownloadSandboxie

MD5 Checksum for download is:

e3fe29ed46b4fcac6fe0e6a64127d300

In case I haven't, I should stress that I have absolutely nothing to do with Sandboxie or its development..I just like it (er...in modem parlance, I think "It's Kool") :)

tjs.


Sandboxie v3.00.05 is out

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?DownloadSandboxie

MD5: A921A33D57C30AF345FA1B163E2F40A5

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Re: Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:57 pm

Now at v3.00.07 :)

MD5: B28C9D8FAB2343A40930CDCB72F737EE

Here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?DownloadSandboxie

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Re: Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:03 pm

WOW..a bit like Buses...they are coming three at a time :)

v3.00.08 is out...see previous links for this very worthwhile Freeware!!!

At this rate of updates, I'll not trouble you any more for a while, rather, leave it to you to check for latest version(s).

Cheers all.

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Re: Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:17 pm

tjs wrote:WOW..a bit like Buses...they are coming three at a time :)

v3.00.08 is out...see previous links for this very worthwhile Freeware!!!

At this rate of updates, I'll not trouble you any more for a while, rather, leave it to you to check for latest version(s).

Cheers all.

tjs.


Well, to spare the Bandwidth, this will be my last update on Sandboxie for a while (the updates are coming daily) :)

So, v3.00.10 is now available and, reputably, 3.01 is 'coming soon' (same link as above) :)

It's still great stuff..if you haven't, give it a try Guys :)

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Re: Sandboxie Version 3 Released...

Postby tjs on Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:45 pm

tjs wrote:
tjs wrote:WOW..a bit like Buses...they are coming three at a time :)

v3.00.08 is out...see previous links for this very worthwhile Freeware!!!

At this rate of updates, I'll not trouble you any more for a while, rather, leave it to you to check for latest version(s).

Cheers all.

tjs.


Well, to spare the Bandwidth, this will be my last update on Sandboxie for a while (the updates are coming daily) :)

So, v3.00.10 is now available and, reputably, 3.01 is 'coming soon' (same link as above) :)

It's still great stuff..if you haven't, give it a try Guys :)

tjs.


OK Guys,

We are now at 3.00.17 :!:

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Nice but

Postby DarkJ5 on Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:46 am

It seems to be a bit slow at starting up programs.
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Re: Nice but

Postby tjs on Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:30 pm

DarkJ5 wrote:It seems to be a bit slow at starting up programs.


Hi DK,

Yes, it maybe but, as far as I understand (and bear in mind that I didn't write Sandboxie), it has to create a complete 'dummy' Registry entry in its own work space (which of course you can opt to delete at the end of the session) so that it can ensure a (secure) Sandbox...hope that made sense.

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